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Old 12-14-12, 16:18
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Quite shocked by this. Definitely Pat is behind this. Wouldn't be surprised if Tinkov is in it too.
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Old 12-14-12, 16:58
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That's it!
I'll never understand how this system works!
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Old 12-14-12, 23:05
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Putin taking matters into his own hands, literally.
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Old 12-19-12, 11:06
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Default Claims that ethical issues led to loss of Katusha’s place in WorldTour

Clip from:http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...WorldTour.aspx

'The team has seen EPO positives for Antonio Colom, Christian Pfannberger and Denis Galimzyanov, a positive test for Alexandr Kolobnev which was eventually overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, allegations that Kolobnev sold the 2010 Liège-Bastogne-Liège to Alexander Vinokourov and also claims that Denis Menchov, Mikhail Ignatiev, Vladimir Gusev and Kolobnev have links to Michele Ferrari and are part of the Padua investigation'.

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...#ixzz2FUjuzOcZ
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Old 12-19-12, 11:18
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'The team has seen EPO positives for Antonio Colom, Christian Pfannberger and Denis Galimzyanov, a positive test for Alexandr Kolobnev which was eventually overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, allegations that Kolobnev sold the 2010 Liège-Bastogne-Liège to Alexander Vinokourov and also claims that Denis Menchov, Mikhail Ignatiev, Vladimir Gusev and Kolobnev have links to Michele Ferrari and are part of the Padua investigation'.
That's a good reason, but if this was the issue why wait until the last moment to reject the WT license?
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Old 12-19-12, 11:21
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Why in the world Kolobnev's "doping case" is even brought up, it was proved in court to be non-existing. And Colom is an ancient history.

Galimzyanov.. Yeah, i give them that one.

And if that legally dubious LBL case is one of the reasons for excluding the team why do you officially approve the other involved side as a general manager of another team?

It's either baseless speculation from Gazetta or UCI is really that dumb.

Baffling.
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Old 12-19-12, 11:22
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That's a good reason, but if this was the issue why wait until the last moment to reject the WT license?
Maybe they had to wait for facts from the Padova case?

Teams involved in the Padova/Ferrari case:

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'Including paying Ferrari. That is why the public prosecutor is also considering the charge of money laundering. Around twenty professional teams are alleged to have been involved in this scam over the four-year period 2008-2011. The prosecutor's office have obtained the contracts of all the cyclists who rode in that period for Liquigas, Lampre, Colnago, Geox, Androni, Katusha, Quick Step, CNF-Inox, Farnese Vini, Acqua&Sapone, Astana, RadioShack, Vacansoleil, ISD, CSF, LPR, Diquigiovanni, Tinkoff, Rabobank, Gerolsteiner and Milram to compare them with the contracts deposited with the UCI to see how much money they failed to declare. An example is the contract signed by Franco Pellizotti "from which it clearly emerges that there was a second contract as described above", it is written in certain documents. "In addition to Pellizotti, the riders of Astana transferred all the money they received through T&F. The evidence is in the computer seized from Yaroslav Popovych, where in a deleted e-mail reference is made to the involvement of T&F as the company paying him his salary from Olympus, the company that manages Astana". A bottomless black hole.'
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UCI got it right for once, Katusha couldn't buy the win from Argos.
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Old 12-19-12, 12:08
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Clip from:http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...WorldTour.aspx

'The team has seen EPO positives for Antonio Colom, Christian Pfannberger and Denis Galimzyanov, a positive test for Alexandr Kolobnev which was eventually overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, allegations that Kolobnev sold the 2010 Liège-Bastogne-Liège to Alexander Vinokourov and also claims that Denis Menchov, Mikhail Ignatiev, Vladimir Gusev and Kolobnev have links to Michele Ferrari and are part of the Padua investigation'.

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This is plain ridiculous. I could make a similar text to almost any other team.
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Old 12-19-12, 12:23
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This is plain ridiculous. I could make a similar text to almost any other team.
I agree with you.

BUT: I didn't post what you are quoting me for
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