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Old 12-11-12, 07:59
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Before making a raged comment, why not wait for a comment from the UCI....I'm interested in the reasons behind. Of course sporting-wise it is shocking...
At the moment they release this news they have to add the reason. I think this is amateur work.
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Freire - celebrating to have made the right decision

Menchov - Screwed over once again. Don't know how many grand tour winners have had to take the kind of political abuse he has.

Purito - Wishing he had gone elsewhere.

Moreno - ditto
Well I think most decent riders have clauses in their contract allowing them to leave if the team is relegated. Even Kristoff has such a clause, so he's free to find a new team if he wishes.
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And we wait for "the reason" in suspense. This is great. It's like a cheesy tv series, "...to be continued".
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Waiting to hear the UCIs reason is kinda missing the important point IMO.

Teams/riders and sponsors should know way before the announcement which team will get a licence and which won't, because the licence criteria should be clear and predictable. They aren't.

The unpredictability means teams will fear the UCI might suddenly decide to relegate them. So, the teams will do anything to avoid upsetting the UCI. That's the real problem.

Whether deliberate or not, the rule of fear is an inevitable consequence of fickle governance.
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The wind has changed. Even at UCI. Any whiff of UCI "supporting" doping is no longer tenable. They have to be seen to be doing the right thing. Hence Argos in. Saxo/Contador is just too big a force to leave out, so Katusha gets the chop. And it also sends a strong signal to Comrade Makarov to back off on leadership challenges. But this move has really forced the Makarov-McQuaid battle out in the open. Expect fireworks as Russia is not going to take this lying down. But first blood for Pat on his new found mission to be seen to be clean.

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it's ridiculous rants like yours that belong in the clinic. for the mentally disturbed and paranoid complot theory believers. you have a nice little place there, where you all believe each others bs stories without any evidence to back it up. just go back there, because posts like yours will be banned if you continue them anyway
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Waiting to hear the UCIs reason is kinda missing the important point IMO.

Teams/riders and sponsors should know way before the announcement which team will get a licence and which won't, because the licence criteria should be clear and predictable. They aren't.

The unpredictability means teams will fear the UCI might suddenly decide to relegate them. So, the teams will do anything to avoid upsetting the UCI. That's the real problem.

Whether deliberate or not, the rule of fear is an inevitable consequence of fickle governance.
how do you know? I'm sure katusha have broken a rule that exists already and they could've known. probably thought they could get away with it or uci wouldn't do something so radical. let's wait what it exactly will be
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Old 12-11-12, 10:25
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vuelta, cataluna, pais vasco, spanish races, tirreno, giro
he has races to shine, don't worry
Moreno got to ride for himself when Purito wasn't there or was tired/out of contention. With less races on the calender he will find himself with less races where he can ride for himself. Lets face it if Katusha get to all those races Purito will want to try and win them all. As a second string rider you need to be on a pro tour team so your captain can have his pick and you get your chances elsewhere. Just not enough opportunity otherwise.
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I doubt that it has anything to do with ethics. If that was the case, plenty of teams would be missing. It's probably some admin/money issue. The type of thing we have seen in the past. Just because Katusha appear to be cashed up, the details may be different. The alternative is politics of course. Obviously Rodriguez's results count for nothing. Two podiums in grand tours this year and two classic wins.
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rodr...bacle-resolved

"It is unknown whether Rodríguez may seek to annul his contract for 2013 and join a team already approved for the WorldTour in the coming season. "

What a mess and how on earth can these idiots at the UCI not produce simultaneously the reason for turning them down ?!
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"The problems are likely to have arisen on the administrative and ethical side. The commission would have balked when looking over the team's recent managerial changes: from Andrei Tchmil, to Holczer to Ekimov in four years. Holczer indicated to Cycling Weekly after he quit in October that after he made the team work it would have trouble on its own."

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...relegated.html
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