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View Poll Results: Better overall rider
Cadel Evans 34 22.08%
Alberto Contador 120 77.92%
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Old 12-15-12, 04:36
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The next poll should be Who is the better rider Robo Basso 2006 or Cyborg Wiggins 2012.btw I think not evans in this poll.
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Old 12-15-12, 04:52
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Contador as a road cyclist. Including MTB isn't fair.

Cadel, for all his talk of a good all rounder hasn't won a monument , and until his WC victory, was a gutless wheel sucker.
Contador's ability to dominate Grand tours puts him at the top.

5 GTS & 4 WT stage races> 1 Gt, 1 WC, 1 WT one day race and 3 WT stage races.
Evans was never a gutless wheel sucker. He rode defensively because he wasn't good enough to attack and confident enough to do it without burning himself out. The times he did try and attack in the early Tours he paid for it later. That's not wheel sucking, that's knowing what he was capable of. Even without the MTB results, Evans is the more versatile across all types of road races.
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Evans was never a gutless wheel sucker. He rode defensively because he wasn't good enough to attack and confident enough to do it without burning himself out. The times he did try and attack in the early Tours he paid for it later. That's not wheel sucking, that's knowing what he was capable of. Even without the MTB results, Evans is the more versatile across all types of road races.


But doesn't have the palmares to show it.
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Contador as a road cyclist. Including MTB isn't fair.

Cadel, for all his talk of a good all rounder hasn't won a monument , and until his WC victory, was a gutless wheel sucker.
Contador's ability to dominate Grand tours puts him at the top.

5 GTS & 4 WT stage races> 1 Gt, 1 WC, 1 WT one day race and 3 WT stage races.
That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.
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second post ever after reading the forum for the last few years and one thing i must say, ACF94 is probably the most intelligent poster here, never biased to BMC or Cadel, and never gets worked up over anything.
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Old 12-15-12, 06:40
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That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.
Contador is a better rider than Cadel Evans because Cadel when someone attacks on a climb,he is already on that wheel and stays there.And in the 2013 Tour he will have no chance against Contador and Froome.
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Old 12-15-12, 08:22
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Alberto, duh. He is the best
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Old 12-15-12, 09:05
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Contador takes it. Will likely be clearer with time.
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Old 12-15-12, 09:06
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@Zam
yes that would be an interesting discussion.
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That is a very short sighted view of Evans. You don't attack when you don't have the legs. Clearly Evans in many instances just didn't have the legs. Unless you think committing suicide (figuratively) on the bike is the best way to get a good palmares, then yes Evans is a 'gutless wheel sucker'.

Personally I think Evans is a better time trial rider when both are at their best, Contador a better climber but Evans is a more versatile rider.
Yeah indeed Evans didn't have the legs as often as Contador, why would that be? Maybe cause he's better lol

Contador can also win classics like Evans. Contador just has a bigger chance in GT's than Evans thus he focuses more on that. Evans has a way better sprint though.

In TT they're equal at their best. No way Evans is better.

I can't believe some many people voted for Evans. This is Contador we're talking about.

Btw Contador is 5 years younger. Doesn't anyone think you've to keep that in mind?
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palmares - contador
actual strength - contador
versatility - evans
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