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View Poll Results: The Better Overall Rider, Nibali or S.Sanchez?
V.Nibali 43 72.88%
S.Sanchez 16 27.12%
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Old 12-18-12, 17:36
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It wont mean anything since it will all be based on wild guess work of what samus form is like.

Like Canc 2 injuries ruined his season so we havent seen him on top form in 1 and a half years.

Is he going to suck now that he turns 35? Probably, but its pure guesswork.
It's about people their opinion and it's interesting to see how it changed after this year. But anyways I didn't know there was a thread otherwise I wouldn't have made it so yeah
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Old 12-18-12, 17:40
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Wtf has this got to do with anything?



this doesnt ask who has the better palmares but who is the better rider.

the 2 are not the same question. For example Nibali has a better palmares than Schleck but Schleck clearly is the better rider.

Oh and olympics is way bigger than a monument btw.
Just because you compete for the glory of your country and the title of Sir?

I just look at who's there and the field is comparable to a Monument. Not that Alexander Kristoff will podium a Monument any time soon.

If anything it should be worth less because it's heavily depended on which country you live in. If you're a good cyclist you can at least get a good team around you in Monuments. But if you're from a country like Slovakia you're pretty much screwed for an Olympic or WC event.

So Nibali is 6 years younger and already has a better palmares? I think that settles who the best all-round rider is.
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So Nibali is 6 years younger and already has a better palmares? I think that settles who the best all-round rider is.
different riders peak at differnet times. I have no doubt Nibali will eventually be a better rider than samu ever was but that is not the question.
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Wtf has this got to do with anything?



Nibali has a better palmares than Schleck but Schleck clearly is the better rider.

time will tell, but i'll go with Nibali.
Schleck is the better climber, no doubt about that, but Nibali is competitive in a huge variety of races, and far more consistent throughout a season

a poll perhaps?
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time will tell, but i'll go with Nibali.
Schleck is the better climber, no doubt about that, but Nibali is competitive in a huge variety of races, and far more consistent throughout a season

a poll perhaps?
I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.
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I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.
The question isn't who's the most talented, that is clearly Andy Schleck, but about who's the best overall rider.
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I accidentally voted Sanchez. Meant to go for Nibali...
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I'd go with who's better at peak form. And that's clearly Schleck. Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.
nibali clearly improved his time trial this year. can we say the same about andy schleck?

anyway on topic, obviously nibali. he is younger, already has the better palmares and is still improving. sanchez is most likely over the hill and i highly doubt he will win anything really big(monument or GT) on his career ever again.
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The question isn't who's the most talented, that is clearly Andy Schleck, but about who's the best overall rider.
exactly

definition of overall: in view of all the circumstances or conditions; with everyone or everything taken into account

talent and peak form, those are just some of the factors


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Even in a time trial (in a GT) they're somewhat equal.
Nibali has shown signs of improvement in that department.
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Old 12-18-12, 19:07
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samu in every possible way he is better. sprinter, itt, climbing, classics, bigger engine. only downhil samu's skills have depleted, but nibali is nothing exceptional either
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