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View Poll Results: Best Uphill Sprinter From Those 4? (6-8%)
A.Valverde 11 11.11%
P.Gilbert 55 55.56%
J.Rodriguez 15 15.15%
P.Sagan 18 18.18%
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Gilbert is the better hill.rider but if he wins its because he dropped valverde and sagan earlier, sprinting got **** to do.with it.
Why didn't he follow him at Valkenburg then? Or La Lastrilla in the Vuelta? Or Saint Nicholas at LBL?
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Why didn't he follow him at Valkenburg then? Or La Lastrilla in the Vuelta? Or Saint Nicholas at LBL?
how do any of.those examples.contradict anything i said?
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how do any of.those examples.contradict anything i said?
Sprinting for 2k at 6% isn't really sprinting, so the thread is sort of pointless anyway. A real uphill sprint is max 500 meters or so, and then Sagan is without a doubt the fastest. Maybe even Greipel.
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Sprinting for 2k at 6% isn't really sprinting, so the thread is sort of pointless anyway. A real uphill sprint is max 500 meters or so, and then Sagan is without a doubt the fastest. Maybe even Greipel.
They mean a short explosive effort on a hill. I think all my examples are a statement of that.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Gilbert can hold his acceleration longer than the other names. He is unbeatable on the Cauberg after all, though I am not sure if that really counts as a sprint.
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Sprinting for 2k at 6% isn't really sprinting, so the thread is sort of pointless anyway. A real uphill sprint is max 500 meters or so, and then Sagan is without a doubt the fastest. Maybe even Greipel.
I made it 2km cause when it's 500 m Sagan wins easy IMO. But will he still have that after having a hill of 1.5 km. Not sprinting for 2 km obviously.

Who can 'sprint' for 2 km? impossible
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I made it 2km cause when it's 500 m Sagan wins easy IMO. But will he still have that after having a hill of 1.5 km. Not sprinting for 2 km obviously.

Who can 'sprint' for 2 km? impossible
No one, but not many people can do this for almost a km:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...leWeOqs#t=514s
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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They mean a short explosive effort on a hill. I think all my examples are a statement of that.
I said valverde and sagan could beat Gilbert in a sprint but that Gilbert can drop them earlier and you come back with 3 examples of.Gilbert dropping valverde earlier 2 of which the race did not end on the hill 1 of which valverde actually came back and beat them.

And you ask.me.how i explain them
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I said valverde and sagan could beat Gilbert in a sprint but that Gilbert can drop them earlier and you come back with 3 examples of.Gilbert dropping valverde earlier 2 of which the race did not end on the hill 1 of which valverde actually came back and beat them.

And you ask.me.how i explain them
Do you really think the outcome of the WC would've been any different had it finished on the Cauberg? Gilbert's time on the Cauberg at the WC was faster than Gaspa's time on the Cauberg during the AGR lol(and thus also faster than Sagan's time).

And La Lastrilla was an uphill finish where Gilbert won. Where did he drop Valverde earlier lol?

Same goes for Saint Nicholas. Had the finish been on it, Valverde would've lost.

Ps: Valverde didn't come back and beat Gilbert in LBL. Evans came back with someone in his wheel all the time.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Do you really think the outcome of the WC would've been any different had it finished on the Cauberg? Gilbert's time on the Cauberg at the WC was faster than Gaspa's time on the Cauberg during the AGR lol(and thus also faster than Sagan's time).

And La Lastrilla was an uphill finish where Gilbert won. Where did he drop Valverde earlier lol?

Same goes for Saint Nicholas. Had the finish been on it, Valverde would've lost.

Ps: Valverde didn't come back and beat Gilbert in LBL. Evans came back with someone in his wheel all the time.
He dropped valverde earlier on the hill, it wasn't a sprint. If contador had won on gallina world you have called it a sprint because it was less than 2km? Even.though his advantage came from an earlier attack and not actually a sprint.
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