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View Poll Results: Which male rider will dominate in 2013?
Contador 53 46.90%
Wiggins 7 6.19%
Froome 11 9.73%
Gilbert 21 18.58%
Boonen 11 9.73%
Cancellara 26 23.01%
Rodriguez 4 3.54%
Sagan 54 47.79%
Valverde 8 7.08%
Other (specify) 13 11.50%
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He won the Tour de Suiise.

But lets pretend (as you do) that he did not.

Well discluding time trials as you always do never makes any sense.

Hes a time trial specialist. There are plenty of races he could go to for a win that he doesnt because hes saving himself for a time trial or tired after a time trial or wearing the yellow jersey.

If he knew time trials dont count he would go for the win in other races Its like mocking Contador for never winning a breakaway stage in a Grand Tour.

And to be fair (which you never are to Cancellara), he has every one of those years spent over half of his post april season domestiquing for the Schlecks
The World Road Race in Firenze is a time trial? Good to know. You hit the nail on the head, he's a time trial specialist.

He won Tour de Suisse? Yeah, because of the time trials. Lol.

He's tired from winning prologues(and one long time trial in a GT)? As if.

The Schlecks only ride one race a year and the Tour is not half your season post April. He had a free reign this year anyway.

Does Contador not win both real stages and time trials in stage races?

Have you realized yet I'm not the one that's excluding time trials, but you are? Why would he stop focusing on time trials? He's good at them.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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The World Road Race in Firenze is a time trial? Good to know. You hit the nail on the head, he's a time trial specialist.

He won Tour de Suisse? Yeah, because of the time trials. Lol.

He's tired from winning prologues(and one long time trial in a GT)? As if.

The Schlecks only ride one race a year and the Tour is not half your season post April. He had a free reign this year anyway.

Does Contador not win both real stages and time trials in stage races?
Time trials and real stages??? Time trials are som sort of fantasy stage?
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Time trials and real stages??? Time trials are som sort of fantasy stage?
Real stages as in racing against multiple people directly instead of indirectly.

What's the point of cycling if it is completely devoid of tactics as time trials are!
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Real stages as in racing against multiple people directly instead of indirectly.

What's the point of cycling if it is completely devoid of tactics as time trials are!
Strongest guy wins. Simples.
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Strongest guy wins. Simples.
Yeah, I know, would get boring very quickly.

Though a time trial of 250km would be very interesting.
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Real stages as in racing against multiple people directly instead of indirectly.

What's the point of cycling if it is completely devoid of tactics as time trials are!
So, what? Winning a time trial is not a real win? In a time trial you push yourself to and past your limits in order to beat the other guys time, often only being separated by seconds. In fact, a rider is probably working a lot harder in a TT than they are in a road race.
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So, what? Winning a time trial is not a real win? In a time trial you push yourself to and past your limits in order to beat the other guys time, often only being separated by seconds. In fact, a rider is probably working a lot harder in a TT than they are in a road race.
I've not seen pro TTs last 6hrs.
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So, what? Winning a time trial is not a real win? In a time trial you push yourself to and past your limits in order to beat the other guys time, often only being separated by seconds. A rider is probably working a lot harder in a TT than they are in a road race in fact.
Time trial win doesn't really matter when you talk about a road race no.

I just used "real stage" to differentiate it from a time trial stage lol. We all know what's more prestigious anyway, let's not kid ourselves.

I think a road race is harder than one of Cancellara's prologue wins though.

Fact remains that it's a lot harder for Cancellara to win an actual road race than it is to win a time trial. That fact will remain valid for next year's WC.

It's not like Cancellara is a frequent winner of road races. Therefor it is worth pointing out he hasn't won a real road race after April since 2008. Except his 2 National Road Race titles, but what competition does he face there lol?
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Guys, it's simple. Boonen isn't great at time trials, that's why they're boring and unimportant.
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Guys, it's simple. Boonen isn't great at time trials, that's why they're boring and unimportant.
Didn't Boonen once say that he was gonna try and win TT's?
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