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Old 01-20-13, 07:35
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Default What's more important in sport? Revenue or fair play?

Granted cycling does have economic barriers to entry for competitors eg necessity to spend at least 1,500 even to start to compete.

Once that requirement on an individual's finances is taken care of and enough people can take to a start line, what's most important then?
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Old 01-20-13, 07:49
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Who's asking?
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Old 01-20-13, 08:01
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I am, it's for discussion. Does that matter?
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Old 01-20-13, 08:05
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revenue

the market decided.

this was a crucial aspect in Armstrongs dominance. 2003 Tour, without the team timetrial, Raimondas Rumsas beats Beloki for second. Rumsas was no mug. He had won Lombardia.

But he came second in the Tour, without Ferrari, without the USPS story, and without Stapleton and the US cancer revenues.

Change those elements, and have Armstrong with Kik's motokik doping program, and Rumsas has the USPS advantages, Rumsas wins.

The market has decided.

Also, many talent riders from Eastern and Central Europe, South America, South Africa, New Zealand do not get a look in. British and Australian and American riders always get more chances. If Bradley Wiggins was from Latvia he would never have got a chance after Cofidis. Or after Linda McCartney.
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Old 01-20-13, 08:19
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Hmmmm, but you can only generate revenue in sport on the basis that there is a value in sport.

All sports have rules to ensure fair play.

Sports exist and continue to exist only because they have rules.

Surely rules, and therefore fair play should take precedent over revenue?

Isn't that what gets jumbled with doping. Isn't that what happened in the Lance debacles.
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Old 01-20-13, 08:25
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your premise is flawed.

the starting point, your premise is you/I/we, are watching sport.

you are not. Its entertainment. And the entertainment is a business
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If you're the investor or the owner, then perhaps revenue trumps fair play. If you are the fan, or the athlete, fair play is most important. That's why it matters who's doing the asking.
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In Pro sports cash will always be king in the end.
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your premise is flawed.

the starting point, your premise is you/I/we, are watching sport.

you are not. Its entertainment. And the entertainment is a business
And I'd say ultimately your premise is flawed.

People watch sport as it relates to what they may have been maybe?

When kids kicking a ball or having a race, shouldn't fair play have applied. Isn't any sport just an extension of those principles?

Too merely simplify sport as entertainment is too convenient.

Might help the more than entertainment contention:

http://www.quora.com/Sports/Why-do-s...y-matter-exist

If you are having competiton, you need rules. Simple!
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Old 01-20-13, 08:36
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If you're the investor or the owner, then perhaps revenue trumps fair play. If you are the fan, or the athlete, fair play is most important. That's why it matters who's doing the asking.
But the whole purpose of this discussion is to look beyond self interests and try to establish ultimately what's best for society with the role sport plays in it.

Do you need to know where someone is coming from before you give your opinion?
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