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Old 01-20-13, 08:38
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In Pro sports cash will always be king in the end.
Only subject to that sport having rules and those involved abiding by them. Hence the rules should trump the revenue.
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Old 01-20-13, 08:50
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And I'd say ultimately your premise is flawed.

People watch sport as it relates to what they may have been maybe?

When kids kicking a ball or having a race, shouldn't fair play have applied. Isn't any sport just an extension of those principles?

Too merely simplify sport as entertainment is too convenient.

Might help the more than entertainment contention:

http://www.quora.com/Sports/Why-do-s...y-matter-exist

If you are having competiton, you need rules. Simple!
rules, like how the nba picks the refs who will call the game for the big market teams, LA Miami Chicago NYC Boston. too easy.

the problem in my view, is where the transition occurs. this is the quandry or paradox. When does one graduate an what alma mater.

it is hazy, there is not a clean response.
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Old 01-20-13, 08:54
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Only subject to that sport having rules and those involved abiding by them. Hence the rules should trump the revenue.
Probably should, but in many cases doesn't.

Even Football/Soccer, one of the most conservative sports on the planet, tweaks the rules mostly as a result of revenue considerations.
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Old 01-20-13, 09:07
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Probably should, but in many cases doesn't.

Even Football/Soccer, one of the most conservative sports on the planet, tweaks the rules mostly as a result of revenue considerations.
Can you give me an example in soccer of what you are talking about?
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Old 01-20-13, 09:08
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rules, like how the nba picks the refs who will call the game for the big market teams, LA Miami Chicago NYC Boston. too easy.

the problem in my view, is where the transition occurs. this is the quandry or paradox. When does one graduate an what alma mater.

it is hazy, there is not a clean response.
Are you standing by your previous contention that my premise is flawed and sport is just entertainment?
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But the whole purpose of this discussion is to look beyond self interests and try to establish ultimately what's best for society with the role sport plays in it.
I must have missed that in your OP.

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In this land of trolls, yes, it would be advisable.
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Old 01-20-13, 09:18
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Can you give me an example in soccer of what you are talking about?
Winning a game used to give 2 points, just one more than what a draw would yield. Matches were often dull (read:tactical), so the rule makers decided to give the winning team 3 points instead. Better entertainment, more fans etc.

Most of the rule tweaks are driven by revenue consideration.
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Old 01-20-13, 09:18
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I must have missed that in your OP.



In this land of trolls, yes, it would be advisable.
Maybe you missed it yes - was in the subtext. In that sport could be defined as a sub set of society. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Advisable? Who gives you authority to advise on such? and on what premise does this advise come from?
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Old 01-20-13, 09:20
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Winning a game used to give 2 points, just one more than what a draw would yield. Matches were often dull (read:tactical), so the rule makers decided to give the winning team 3 points instead. Better entertainment, more fans etc.

Most of the rule tweaks are driven by revenue consideration.
That didn't change the objectives of the game though or the rules on the field as such.

It was akin to upping prize money so to speak.
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Fair play. Pro sport as it is is a freak, representative of the times we live in. In sport in general fair play is more important. Imagine for a second strictly no money changed hands in sport - everyone does it for it's own sake. Now imagine there is money, but no rules. The former would just be amateur sport, the latter basically organised crime, and irrelevant to the subject of this forum.
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