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Old 01-24-13, 15:30
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So it's only a January training race, so not worth getting excited by Thomas's stage win yesterday. But was reading this:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...ics-rider-over

Suggesting that he could be a contender at LBL.

As a fairly new, UK based, cycling fan, I don't have enough understanding of the classics to get a strong grasp on whether this is a sensible view, or just non-sensical hype.

So I thought I'd throw this open to people who know more than me - basically two questions. What's anyone's opinion of:

- How far can Thomas go as a contender results wise? (say elite contender 5-10 wins+ a year, solid contributor 2-4 wins a year, occasional stage hunter/super dom, or just a solid pro)

- What should he specialise in - classics (hills, cobbles, both?), short stage races/prologues, grand tours?

Personally I don't have a strong opinion either way. I think he's already at the stage-hunter/super dom level, but just don't have any idea if he will progress. Just interested in others views.
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Old 01-24-13, 15:58
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As a fairly new, UK based, cycling fan, I don't have enough understanding of the classics to get a strong grasp on whether this is a sensible view, or just non-sensical hype.
Normally it's the latter. Winning a stage in TDU doesn't make you a L-B-L contender, and G has never really been good in the hills. But according to this great article, winning a stage in TDU is a better indication of classic talent than being 2nd at Worlds.

Anyhow, since he's British and from Sky normal logic and progression doesn't apply. I guess he'll probably podium TDF this year and win all 5 monuments.
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Old 01-24-13, 16:03
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RownhamHill - I'm not sure about that article - it seems obvious that JTL will win LBL.

G will win RVV and PR, in the same year, several times*.

*Unless he's riding for Boassen Hagen, that is the only thing that could stop him
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Old 01-24-13, 16:05
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Normally it's the latter. Winning a stage in TDU doesn't make you a L-B-L contender, and G has never really been good in the hills. But according to this great article, winning a stage in TDU is a better indication of classic talent than being 2nd at Worlds.
The first bit was my reaction. Not sure I follow the second bit - who is it came second at the worlds who is being unfairly maligned?

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Anyhow, since he's British and from Sky normal logic and progression doesn't apply. I guess he'll probably podium TDF this year and win all 5 monuments.
ouch!
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Old 01-24-13, 16:09
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The first bit was my reaction. Not sure I follow the second bit - who is it came second at the worlds who is being unfairly maligned?
"...and although Edvald Boasson Hagen appears to have many of the right attributes, he seems to have found a place at Sky as a stage hunter and domestique de luxe at the grand tours"

Well **** you CN, to me it seems like Geraint Thomas has found his place as a stage hunter in the TDU!
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Old 01-24-13, 16:11
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Normally it's the latter. Winning a stage in TDU doesn't make you a L-B-L contender, and G has never really been good in the hills. But according to this great article, winning a stage in TDU is a better indication of classic talent than being 2nd at Worlds.

Anyhow, since he's British and from Sky normal logic and progression doesn't apply. I guess he'll probably podium TDF this year and win all 5 monuments.
I love the way you you give EBH a mention everytime

How is 2nd at Worlds any idication on any talent on cobbles ( as EBH said he's big target is PR ) I have no clue ? Did the Worlds include cobbles or what ?

Plus the Worlds weren't hard at all, compared to normal versions of races like Ronde or PR.

EBH said he was at best shape last year and still failed at PR. Let's say that I have more faith in Thomas producing on cobbles than EBH.

I hope EBH proves me wrong though of course, but I don't have much faith in him on cobbles .
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Old 01-24-13, 16:15
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Plus the Worlds weren't hard at all, compared to normal versions of races like Ronde or PR.
Mostly this. Boasson Hagen's potential does seem limited at present, as far as Monuments and other BIG classics are concerned.
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"...and although Edvald Boasson Hagen appears to have many of the right attributes, he seems to have found a place at Sky as a stage hunter and domestique de luxe at the grand tours"

Well **** you CN, to me it seems like Geraint Thomas has found his place as a stage hunter in the TDU!
I feel pity for you having so many nationalistic frustrations.
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G will at least podium P-R one day. He has never shown anything in the Ardennes though. Henao, Uran, EBH and JTL will fight out Skys Ardennes leadership
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Thomas has shown some promise of being good on the cobbles, he won junior Paris-Roubaix in 2004 and was 2nd on the cobble stage in the 2010 Tour.
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