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View Poll Results: Which double is harder to do?
Giro - Tour 72 87.80%
Tour - Vuelta 3 3.66%
equally hard 6 7.32%
equally impossible 1 1.22%
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Old 02-03-13, 10:21
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Average péloton speed at the Tour is higher than at the Vuelta, so it's easier to hold form between the two than from Giro to Tour (also in recent years the gap between the Tour and Vuelta has been shorter, though that also means less recovery time of course).

For reference, we can note top names attempting Giro-Tour doubles in recent years:
Menchov 2008: 5th Giro, 4th Tour
Riccò 2008: 2nd Giro, DSQ Tour
Menchov 2009: 1st Giro, 50th Tour
Sastre 2009: 3rd Giro, 17th Tour
Evans 2010: 5th Giro, 25th Tour
Vinokourov 2010: 6th Giro, 15th Tour
Basso 2010: 1st Giro, 31st Tour
(Contador 2011: 1st Giro, 5th Tour)
Basso 2012: 5th Giro, 25th Tour

And top names attempting Tour-Vuelta doubles in recent years:
Evans 2007: 2nd Tour, 4th Vuelta
Sastre 2007: 4th Tour, 2nd Vuelta
Sastre 2008: 1st Tour, 3rd Vuelta
Valverde 2008: 6th Tour, 5th Vuelta
Evans 2009: 30th Tour, 3rd Vuelta
Rodríguez 2010: 7th Tour, 4th Vuelta
Valverde 2012: 20th Tour, 2nd Vuelta
Froome 2012: 2nd Tour, 4th Vuelta

The amount of people who double up on good performances is higher for the Tour-Vuelta double.
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No Giro - Vuelta lovers?
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Average péloton speed at the Tour is higher than at the Vuelta, so it's easier to hold form between the two than from Giro to Tour (also in recent years the gap between the Tour and Vuelta has been shorter, though that also means less recovery time of course).

For reference, we can note top names attempting Giro-Tour doubles in recent years:
Menchov 2008: 5th Giro, 4th Tour
Riccò 2008: 2nd Giro, DSQ Tour
Menchov 2009: 1st Giro, 50th Tour
Sastre 2009: 3rd Giro, 17th Tour
Evans 2010: 5th Giro, 25th Tour
Vinokourov 2010: 6th Giro, 15th Tour
Basso 2010: 1st Giro, 31st Tour
(Contador 2011: 1st Giro, 5th Tour)
Basso 2012: 5th Giro, 25th Tour

And top names attempting Tour-Vuelta doubles in recent years:
Evans 2007: 2nd Tour, 4th Vuelta
Sastre 2007: 4th Tour, 2nd Vuelta
Sastre 2008: 1st Tour, 3rd Vuelta
Valverde 2008: 6th Tour, 5th Vuelta
Evans 2009: 30th Tour, 3rd Vuelta
Rodríguez 2010: 7th Tour, 4th Vuelta
Valverde 2012: 20th Tour, 2nd Vuelta
Froome 2012: 2nd Tour, 4th Vuelta

The amount of people who double up on good performances is higher for the Tour-Vuelta double.
But I bet you know in which of GT unofficial power ITT and MTT records were set.
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Old 02-03-13, 10:30
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What a stupid question.

It's obviously ToC-Giro.
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Old 02-03-13, 10:31
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But I bet you know in which of GT unofficial power ITT and MTT records were set.
If Armstrong wanted to win the Tour-Vuelta he would have kept Heras at USPS
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Old 02-03-13, 11:37
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do you seriously think he would of beaten that Froome?
Lol, how was Froome that impressive in that Vuelta? He lost to Cobo and finished 4 minutes in front of Monfort......

Don't think Contador would've beaten 'that Froome' from 2012 TDF in the 2011 TDF shape, but he sure should have been able to win the Vuelta 2011.
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Lol, how was Froome that impressive in that Vuelta? He lost to Cobo and finished 4 minutes in front of Monfort......

Don't think Contador would've beaten 'that Froome' from 2012 TDF in the 2011 TDF shape, but he sure should have been able to win the Vuelta 2011.
Cobo rode Angliru faster than Contador. But let's think if characterizes him badly if you like. Nonetheless, Froome rode very conservatively for Wiggins. He would have ridden much stronger for himself.
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Why 4 poll questions? It should be just 1. Giro-Tour. Airstream, now that you know, what's your next poll?
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Why 4 poll questions? It should be just 1. Giro-Tour. Airstream, now that you know, what's your next poll?
I disagree with people voting for Giro-Tour. It is too simplified thought.
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Old 02-03-13, 11:52
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I disagree with people voting for Giro-Tour. It is too simplified thought.
The poll is proving you way wrong. Did you intend a different question? I don't get the 'too simplified'.
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