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Old 02-04-13, 11:24
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The Tour makes very high TT requirements traditionally. Either one is a genial climber or a brilliant all-rounde who can limit his mountain losses in TT. Nibali doesn't look like any of these guys so far.
That's true, nibali is neither but that doesn't mean van garderen is better.

He couldn't even follow the sky train, his climbing abilities are still a question. It depends on how good he'll become at it the next years.
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The Tour makes very high TT requirements traditionally. Either one is a genial climber or a brilliant all-rounde who can limit his mountain losses in TT. Nibali doesn't look like any of these guys so far.
traditionally the tour has mountains to balance the route, like it did in 07 and 08 which were the last 2 times the route had over 100k of itt.
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Old 02-04-13, 11:41
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traditionally the tour has mountains to balance the route, like it did in 07 and 08 which were the last 2 times the route had over 100k of itt.
the tour of '08 had over 100 km ITT?

edit: looked it up, it had 82 km ITT
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i thought the first itt was longer but it also didn't have a prologue which if it had would pit at around 90k itt. that isn't far from the 100k mark
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Probably not, but that doesn't effect his awesomeness
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Just to give an overview:

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It all depends on how the race unfods really. With a couple of hard dowhill finishes, a not to long final tt and som lbl like stages and not to hard mtfs, sure he can win with a strong enough team (Astana 09 strong)
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It all depends on how the race unfods really. With a couple of hard dowhill finishes, a not to long final tt and som lbl like stages and not to hard mtfs, sure he can win with a strong enough team (Astana 09 strong)
He can do well on hard mtfs, as long as there isn't many back-to-back mountain stages.
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Strange chart. In 2008 they handle Super Besse like a MTF, unlike 2011. Apparently, Tour always had 3-4 MTF's but 2002.
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He can do well on hard mtfs, as long as there isn't many back-to-back mountain stages.
He can do well on a hard mountain stage indeed. Is it a follow AC, Froome, and Andy well, or a beat VDB2 well? i a not so sure
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