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Old 02-06-13, 07:43
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So from what I'm reading if a rider you like misses the podium its a good placing no matter which slot he ends up at. Yet, without actually digging up the results no one knows who placed > 3rd.
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Old 02-06-13, 08:50
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Depends on the rider, if you're Contador, only 1st place is good, if you're JVDB, 4th place is good. If you're Wim Vansevenant, only last place is good
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Should be the 3rd.
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A good stage win should be more valuable that a 4th, 5th... place in the overall.
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The question isn't whether a certain place is "good" or "bad" for an individual rider. It is more about where the division lies between those riders (and their teams) who are actively contesting and defending their GC place and everyone else who doesn't care where they are because it is more or less irrelevant to them since their goals and responsibilities lie elsewhere.

My gut feeling is that no matter what, in all three GTs the top 20 remains hotly contested. The reason I say this is because you can often see it in the way teams react to breakaways. You rarely, if ever, see a team chase down a breakaway for the specific purpose of preventing those riders moving up on GC, when the highest placed rider in the break is outside the top 20 or 30. But often when anyone inside the top 20 gets in a break, an opposing team who has a rider on GC just ahead, gets on the front and tries to limit the gap.

Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but it seems relevant to team tactics to contest the top 20 under most circumstances.
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It think it also depends on what nationality the rider has. If the rider is from a non-traditional cycling nation then a top-20 is probably a pretty big deal, especially if it's the first top 20 for a rider from that country.
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> 3rd Place.
This is correct.
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My gut feeling is that no matter what, in all three GTs the top 20 remains hotly contested. The reason I say this is because you can often see it in the way teams react to breakaways. You rarely, if ever, see a team chase down a breakaway for the specific purpose of preventing those riders moving up on GC, when the highest placed rider in the break is outside the top 20 or 30. But often when anyone inside the top 20 gets in a break, an opposing team who has a rider on GC just ahead, gets on the front and tries to limit the gap.

Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but it seems relevant to team tactics to contest the top 20 under most circumstances.
Agree. For teams it also means money and points, not just are these places remembered by fans.
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Old 02-06-13, 10:30
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This is correct.
Of course it's not. Plenty of riders and teams have raced to get in the top-10.
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after the third place. any other place, who cares
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