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Old 02-17-13, 21:43
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Berto hasn't done many great tts lately though so I wouldn't be so sure.
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will anybody be able to beat Martin this year (longish TT)?
Martin was in pretty good form at the World ITT champs as shown by the way he stormed Beijing and CDS after that and yet young Taylor Phinney gave him more than just a race for his money. Phinney is still young but he is an incredibly talent

Bradley Wiggins beat Martin in Algarve, PN, Olympics and Tour last year.
Albeit in every one of those situations Martin was either injured or handicapped in some way yet Wiggins did earmark himself as the best ITT rider of 2012 and I wouldn't automatically give that title back to Martin considering Wiggins's improvement over the past couple of years.

Fabian Cancellara is still racing and is still a beast I wouldn't discount a rider who has won 4 WC ITT.
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Berto hasn't done many great tts lately though so I wouldn't be so sure.
Well he came 7th in the Eneco Tour ITT which considering it was his first race after his comeback is pretty good. He came 2nd in the Vuelta ITT, though that was pretty hilly, yet still a good result. He may have come 9th in the Worlds ITT but he may have been having an off day and still 9th in the worlds isn't half bad. This year his 13th in Sans Luis was obviously down to the fact he wasn't in top form. He has a good enough base to climb competitively even when not trimmed down but his ITT does seem to slide a bit, just see last year's Sans Luis ITT where similar occured I think.
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Berto hasn't done many great tts lately though so I wouldn't be so sure.
Remember this thread: http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18314
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Martin was in pretty good form at the World ITT champs as shown by the way he stormed Beijing and CDS after that and yet young Taylor Phinney gave him more than just a race for his money. Phinney is still young but he is an incredibly talent

Bradley Wiggins beat Martin in Algarve, PN, Olympics and Tour last year.
Albeit in every one of those situations Martin was either injured or handicapped in some way yet Wiggins did earmark himself as the best ITT rider of 2012 and I wouldn't automatically give that title back to Martin considering Wiggins's improvement over the past couple of years.

Fabian Cancellara is still racing and is still a beast I wouldn't discount a rider who has won 4 WC ITT.
The question I have about Wiggo is his focus. Last year he had a unique opportunity with the London TT. Once in a lifetime and he delivered. I think he would need to train for TT'ing in a similar way this year to reach '12 level. Why would he do that? Giro GC? Worlds TT? Maybe. For Martin its business as usual on the TT front. He wants to be the best at that. Anyway we shall see.
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JTL on twitter. Looks like he was TOLD to be bottle carrier...sounded a bit miffed that he,s being held in the blocks.
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The question I have about Wiggo is his focus. Last year he had a unique opportunity with the London TT. Once in a lifetime and he delivered. I think he would need to train for TT'ing in a similar way this year to reach '12 level. Why would he do that? Giro GC? Worlds TT? Maybe. For Martin its business as usual on the TT front. He wants to be the best at that. Anyway we shall see.
Completely agree. Wiggins will be strong, but probably top 5 at most in the TTs this year. Looking forward to the Phinney/Martin showdowns
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Hmm don't know about Alberto in a flat 35 km tt. I would say he'd lose 1'30"-2'00"
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Martin was in pretty good form at the World ITT champs as shown by the way he stormed Beijing and CDS after that and yet young Taylor Phinney gave him more than just a race for his money. Phinney is still young but he is an incredibly talent

Bradley Wiggins beat Martin in Algarve, PN, Olympics and Tour last year.
Albeit in every one of those situations Martin was either injured or handicapped in some way yet Wiggins did earmark himself as the best ITT rider of 2012 and I wouldn't automatically give that title back to Martin considering Wiggins's improvement over the past couple of years.

Fabian Cancellara is still racing and is still a beast I wouldn't discount a rider who has won 4 WC ITT.

Martin 2011.Wiggins 2012. He won a tt in February, March, April, June, July, August, September and October and at least some of those would have been off form. Wiggins

he beat Wiggins in several tts that year including crucially the worlds, and Wiggins was on form for at least some of them.
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Well he came 7th in the Eneco Tour ITT which considering it was his first race after his comeback is pretty good. He came 2nd in the Vuelta ITT, though that was pretty hilly, yet still a good result. He may have come 9th in the Worlds ITT but he may have been having an off day and still 9th in the worlds isn't half bad. This year his 13th in Sans Luis was obviously down to the fact he wasn't in top form. He has a good enough base to climb competitively even when not trimmed down but his ITT does seem to slide a bit, just see last year's Sans Luis ITT where similar occured I think.
The worlds course also didn't really suit him. The profile looked hilly, which was why he decided to target it, but riding it he found it was not as hilly as it appeared on the profile.
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