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Old 02-24-13, 20:30
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I wont say anything about contador. Basso - 3rd japan cup, 4th ll Giro and vuelta and 1st trentino and ll Giro and 5th TA and he did it as clean as a whistle
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Old 02-24-13, 20:32
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But what about the Bolded Capital Letters by the way Piti seems very strong still.
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Basso = not quite robo Basso, but still had a year or 2 as a top gt rider after his comeback

Valverde = to early to say yet, but what we saw in the Vuelta was VERY promising to say atleast.

Armstrong = old
Lol funny to see ya'll reading so much into his post and reaching these conclusions? All the original poster was doing was observing that mbiuro wrote The Great One's name with a capital letter- Contador; but wrote all the other rider's names without capitalizating the first letter- armstrong, valverde, basso.
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Old 02-24-13, 21:03
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Lol funny to see ya'll reading so much into his post and reaching these conclusions? All the original poster was doing was observing that mbiuro wrote The Great One's name with a capital letter- Contador; but wrote all the other rider's names without capitalizating the first letter- armstrong, valverde, basso.
Okay that makes sense
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Froome see's how Contador is already dressing himself in yellow in anticipation for July, how he rides with no helmet without fear, how he and his loyal second in command Kreuziger have grown thin, how he takes on the sprinters in a bunch sprint, and how Contador has given previews of what others will face in July in the form of Giro 2011 pictures....

...and he feels fear...
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Old 02-24-13, 21:51
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All of Contador's GT performances that have been sub-par compared to his best performances he has had a justifiable reason for them being sub-par. So I see no reason why he can't still perform at a level we have seen in the past.
I don't expect him to be performing to the level we saw in 2009 and 2011, but I think he can easily get to a very good level; not domination level but not 2011 Tour or 2012 Vuelta (where he couldn't drop Purito) level either.
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Old 02-24-13, 22:07
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All of Contador's GT performances that have been sub-par compared to his best performances he has had a justifiable reason for them being sub-par. So I see no reason why he can't still perform at a level we have seen in the past.
I don't expect him to be performing to the level we saw in 2009 and 2011, but I think he can easily get to a very good level; not domination level but not 2011 Tour or 2012 Vuelta (where he couldn't drop Purito) level either.
I wouldn't say Contador's Vuelta performance was sub par. He beat two good riders who had ridden all season. Rodriguez went close in the Giro and has improved his GT riding. Just when most people thought Rodriguez had it won, Contador turns the race on it's head. Contador might be one of those riders who hit his peak when younger as some do. Andy Schleck may be an even better example. Not all sportsmen can keep hitting their best form in their thirties even in cycling. I just think Contador is not as feared as he used to be. And his attacks are more or less expected now. Still he will be hard to beat in any grand tour he competes in even without the aura of invincibility he used to have.
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I wouldn't say Contador's Vuelta performance was sub par. He beat two good riders who had ridden all season. Rodriguez went close in the Giro and has improved his GT riding. Just when most people thought Rodriguez had it won, Contador turns the race on it's head. Contador might be one of those riders who hit his peak when younger as some do. Andy Schleck may be an even better example. Not all sportsmen can keep hitting their best form in their thirties even in cycling. I just think Contador is not as feared as he used to be. And his attacks are more or less expected now. Still he will be hard to beat in any grand tour he competes in even without the aura of invincibility he used to have.
No, the vuelta performance wasn't really a sub-par performance. But when compared to 2009 Tour or 2011 Giro and to what people were expecting of him it wasn't as good as we have seen in the past. That's what I meant. I think it was a really great performance in fact, but it was evident he had trouble making attacks stick and trouble dropping Purito.
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I can't wait for Contador to show his best form at the Tour.

With Andy probably gone that legacy is fading away it would be a great shame if Contador struggles to find his best. I can see him being equal to or better than Giro 2011. The Tour last year had Wiggins and truth be told I loved every minute of it but it can't compare to Contador's all out attacking style and pure racing. That is why I started watching this sport and I don't want it to go.

Bring it on..
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the vuelta performance was imo well above par, not above the expectations the fans had but if we are realistic what he did with no racing in his legs for nearly a year was absolutely fantastic.

Sean kelly said it himself in an interview a couple months ago, winning a GT without any racing in his legs was an amazing achievement in his opinion, and honestly i will take his word on that.
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the vuelta performance was imo well above par, not above the expectations the fans had but if we are realistic what he did with no racing in his legs for nearly a year was absolutely fantastic.

Sean kelly said it himself in an interview a couple months ago, winning a GT without any racing in his legs was an amazing achievement in his opinion, and honestly i will take his word on that.
I remember Majka said after last years 14 hills tournament that The Great One would be twice the rider.for.the tour. Though personally i don't put much credence.into what riders say about what their own form will be, let alone others.
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the vuelta performance was imo well above par, not above the expectations the fans had but if we are realistic what he did with no racing in his legs for nearly a year was absolutely fantastic.

Sean kelly said it himself in an interview a couple months ago, winning a GT without any racing in his legs was an amazing achievement in his opinion, and honestly i will take his word on that.
Tbh he certainly will be better than in the Vuelta.
The question is how much better?
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