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Old 04-07-09, 12:52
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Default Jobie Dajka found dead

hi guys

yes as the title reads, Jobie Dajka has been found dead in his home. heard it on the news about 9.30 pm local time i have posted the link to the newsflash so you can read it

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

such a terrible way for a guy to go out who had so much talent
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Old 04-07-09, 13:22
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Yep, I just saw it on another forum.
That's obviously shocking and horrible.




http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-n...0407-9znw.html

Did he attempt to take his own life a couple of years ago after the Barras assault?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobie_Dajka
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Old 04-07-09, 13:40
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Sad. The alcohol and drugs as coping mechanisms didn't work, beating up his coach didn't work either. He must have been in a very dark place.
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Old 04-07-09, 17:34
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Default Don't think it is really suitable for discussion.,

We made the mistake of releasing the terrible news of his passing on our twitter updates.

We were contacted by friends asking us to respect his passing.

it is possible that if it were not for the doping within cycling, Jobie's life might have taken a different path.

No one knows the full details and perhaps it is better for no speculation at this juncture.

I agree that we should not mark out any individual case, especially in
the sad time for his family and friends.
We wish condolence to his family and friends.

I hope jobie has found rest.
RIP

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Old 04-07-09, 22:36
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it is possible that if it were not for the doping within cycling, Jobie's life might have taken a different path.

No one knows the full details and perhaps it is better for no speculation at this juncture.

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Screw all these speculations and heart attack deaths/suicides/overdoses, etc. It no longer surprises me one bit to see teenagers doping, riders coming out of retirement to win the Tour at 40, whatever else.

Instead truly combat doping>>>>>

BikePure needs to promote total body hemoglobin testing and power profiling of top riders, I dont understand why not?!

Greg LeMond had a super-simple solution at Lance's coming out of retirement party in Las Vegas--Track his power files and total body hemolglobin test him. Why do sites like Matt Decanio's (which is now gone) and BikePure not advocate for this?

why not keep to yourselves and promote some ideas that testers like Michael Aschenden, and an anti-doping guy like LeMond would support?

I think its better to have a solution to the problem, protest until the solution is implemented instead of having a bunch of guys competing in a system where there is potential blood doping going on widespread. It makes NO SINCE to me why these REAL solutions have not been advertised and why the cycling community does not demand guys like Ivan Basso and Lance to have a governing body or agency like WADA take Lance's SRM files and post them, along with is total body hemoglobin volume from week to week.

Also, I'm not seeing the Garmin Team having their power values being tracked by an independent body. I would like to see how many watts some of those guys can hold for an hour, from week to week. Not just in races.

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Old 04-08-09, 03:20
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Unhappy blood on the hands of sport obsessed culture

Gotta feel sorry for the guy...
but...welll
I was happy when he got banned.... no good for the sport I thought.
He was either a cheat and a liar or just really stupid- stupid beyond belief.
2year bans aren't enough-


sport's only a game...our olympic culture might have us think otherwise...

this 'career' emphasis doesn't make the sport any better for anyone.

so he was a kid brainwashed by dreams of glory and a gov't that fuelled it...gave him bikes and coaching and pushed and pushed

and he got desperate and

he had no better ideas.

hmmm
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Old 04-08-09, 03:43
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It is possible that if it were not for the doping within cycling, Jobie's life might have taken a different path.
It's possible that if cycling weren't a sport and bikes didn't exist his life would have taken a different path too.

Instead, I'd rather remember him for his contribution to our beloved sport and regret that another life has been lost at the hand of depression, while mourning the loss of a fellow human and leave it at that.

Cheers
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Old 04-08-09, 09:45
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I guess we will know more in time and in my opinion out of respect to Jobie and his family, we really shouldn't speculate about why or how. They have lost their child, brother, friend.

It's a hard time for anyone in their position, I wouldn't want to make it worse for them.
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Old 04-08-09, 10:33
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Instead, I'd rather remember him for his contribution to our beloved sport and regret that another life has been lost at the hand of depression, while mourning the loss of a fellow human and leave it at that.
Cycling media purports that it is insensitive to dig fingers into wounds... for reasons of pious respect... more likely it's bad for business. Compare the number of adverts on the CN site to the CyclePure site- hell, they are advertising for advertisers

Anyone who cares about the 'cleanliness' of cycling must think that the future of cycling can only benefit from examination of such legacy...

Can cycling ever get well without these tragedies being seen for what they are?

It could well be argued that the plights of the Dajkas' and Pantanis' et al, are the only tangible reasons that might show the next generation that doping and lying are not a good idea.

Doping is clearly working well for many in the pro peleton...(most of the winners-see last years tour)
Basso is still publicised as if he is someone to be admired in CyclingNews profiles, news and whatnot...

if a 14y/o kid got into cycling today he might think Basso is good role model... Wouldn't that be great!

though unless he shared Basso's moral 'fortitude' he might end up turning to drugs to deal with depression

Do more Cycling News.
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Old 04-08-09, 11:53
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Cycling media purports that it is insensitive to dig fingers into wounds... for reasons of pious respect... more likely it's bad for business.
Paddy, I think your comments show that regardless of what we say or do there will always be someone willing to shape it how they like for a desired outcome.

I speak - and it is me speaking, as a human, not in a journalistic capacity nor as a representative of Cyclingnews - as someone who has been touched by depression. I know exactly what Jobie's family and close friends are going through at the moment.

With this experience and the fact it's within 24 hours of his death, I would rather simply leave my thoughts with those close to Jobie as they come to terms with this tragic news. Despite the fact that I agree with much of what has been said by both you and Bikepure on the anti-doping front, I donít agree that itís the most topical point at this very moment in time.

The point youíve made about the 14 year old kid is absolutely right, Riccardo Ricco is proof of this as someone who followed his idolís footsteps.

There are certainly larger issues at play, only a fool would deny that, but theyíre not going to be eradicated overnight. That can only happen through evolution and constant pressure on the sport by fans like you demanding change Ė which is a very positive thing. But I therefore think itís acceptable to take a moment away from that to offer our thoughts to those within the cycling community that are impacted by this tragic event.

I donít care if you agree with my stance, and youíre welcome to label my approach whatever you want because itís simply not going to sway my personal thoughts an inch. Iíve seen the impact tragic events like this can have on those close to the person involved and while we certainly do need to examine these issues to protect the next generation of young athletes, I also donít want to take a phone call telling me someone close to Jobie hasnít been able to cope with the grief of the situation. Itís a call Iíve had to take once before and as a result I donít believe taking a moment to focus on those whose immediate reality is impacted by this event is the crime itís been made out to be.

Cheers
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