Just wait for the protests of Valverde's innocence... - CyclingNews Forum

Go Back   CyclingNews Forum > Road > The Clinic

The Clinic The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-16-10, 15:16
igamogam igamogam is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Annecy, France
Posts: 40
Default Just wait for the protests of Valverde's innocence...

Title says it all.

Super talented rider but a real shame. I hope he serves his ban graciously and helps kill off the doping culture by admitting what he's done.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-16-10, 15:22
igamogam igamogam is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Annecy, France
Posts: 40
Thumbs down Voila!

See!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/valv...is-italian-ban
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-16-10, 15:45
Race Radio's Avatar
Race Radio Race Radio is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,164
Default

It is all a French....er, Italian conspiracy. It is all that tabloid le 'Equipe's....err, la Gazetta trying to sell newspapers.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-16-10, 15:49
Polish Polish is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,757
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Race Radio View Post
It is all a French....er, Italian conspiracy. It is all that tabloid le 'Equipe's....err, la Gazetta trying to sell newspapers.
You are probably right
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-16-10, 16:38
FignonLeGrand's Avatar
FignonLeGrand FignonLeGrand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 300
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by igamogam View Post
Title says it all.

Super talented rider but a real shame. I hope he serves his ban graciously and helps kill off the doping culture by admitting what he's done.
Surely all of his actions up till now just show that he will/ has done exactly the opposite. Just as Basso its all denials and excuses, trying to gain as much money before he is banned and presumably like Basso comes back to be a poor cyclist without his extra fuel. Basso/ Valverde/ Ricco are the worst of the worst, they were part of the new vanguard of more switched on cyclists who were doing it clean but in reality they were just looking for the next non detectable drug. The media often seems to portray Italy and Portugal as the least bastions of druggie culture in cycling but the actions of the Spanish federation seem to show there are more countries need to wise up and address these issues. Just look at the terrible consequences of doping with the most recent example of the 19 year old Polish rider trying to commit suicide after being caught, surely its time to ban all druggies for life and ban the teams and the directors, otherwise cycling will be unfairly tarnished and continue to be viewed as a sport full of dopers. Which I would like to think is no longer the case.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-16-10, 16:51
hfer07's Avatar
hfer07 hfer07 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,912
Default

If I was Valverde, I'd simply shut the fvck up & complete my sanction quietly before UCI goes for the global ban. He's the lucky one whom has ridden & won races without any punishment since the entire OP blew over--so what more can he ask for?
__________________
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?
Sun Tzu
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-16-10, 17:17
ScottinPhilly ScottinPhilly is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania
Posts: 38
Default

I like Valverde's defense strategy. Throw enough crap at the wall and some of it is going to stick. His lawyers now claim his human rights have been violated. How and when did this happen? He continues to hide behind the Spanish courts because he knows and has known all along it is his blood. My beef is what the hell makes Valverde so damn special. Just about any other rider in his position would at the very least be provisionally suspended at this point. Yet Valverde remains free to challenge at the Tour Down Under, Paris-Nice and probably if his appeal lasts long enough the TDF. I just want this over with, once Valverde takes his punishment maybe we can finally stop dealing with OP.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-16-10, 17:20
pedaling squares's Avatar
pedaling squares pedaling squares is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,798
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by igamogam View Post
Title says it all.

Super talented rider but a real shame. I hope he serves his ban graciously and helps kill off the doping culture by admitting what he's done.
Consider the following line from the CN article, which suggests he did not offer any denial but tried to use the legal system to have the evidence excluded. So there may yet be an admittance, but so far there's no sign of grace.


The Spaniard appealed against the ban, claiming the CONI had no legal right to use the evidence.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-16-10, 17:29
elapid's Avatar
elapid elapid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,247
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottinPhilly View Post
Just about any other rider in his position would at the very least be provisionally suspended at this point.
Not true - how many riders have been suspended from Operation Puerto? Three riders (Basso, Scarponi and Jaschke) and all three were suspended because they confessed to their involvement. No rider (or athlete from another sport) has been found guilty. What about the other 50-odd cyclists who were implicated and thus are all in Valverde's position? None of them have been investigated (by CONI, UCI or anyone else) and provisionally suspended. While I have no doubt regarding Valverde's guilt, this is a targeted witch hunt which ignores the ruling of higher powers (Spanish judiciary) and the involvement of the remaining riders implicated in Operation Puerto who continue to ride professionally.
__________________
"If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-16-10, 17:33
BikeCentric's Avatar
BikeCentric BikeCentric is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,795
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottinPhilly View Post
I like Valverde's defense strategy. Throw enough crap at the wall and some of it is going to stick. His lawyers now claim his human rights have been violated. How and when did this happen? He continues to hide behind the Spanish courts because he knows and has known all along it is his blood. My beef is what the hell makes Valverde so damn special. Just about any other rider in his position would at the very least be provisionally suspended at this point. Yet Valverde remains free to challenge at the Tour Down Under, Paris-Nice and probably if his appeal lasts long enough the TDF. I just want this over with, once Valverde takes his punishment maybe we can finally stop dealing with OP.
What makes him special is that he's a star who wins races. The UCI has always operated under the "principle" of protect the stars who are the face of the sport while throwing under the bus the small fish who get caught as "the few untalented bad apples of the sport who had to dope to keep up unlike the true champions who don't need drugs." It's crap, but not only does the policy not appear to be changing, it seems to be getting stronger.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 19:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2006 - 2009 Future Publishing Limited. All rights reserved. Future Publishing Limited is part of the Future plc group. Future Publishing Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company registration number 2008885 whose registered office is at Beauford Court 30 Monmouth Street Bath, UK BA1 2BW England.