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Old 07-08-10, 10:08
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In today's l'Equipe:

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breve..._pevenage.html

Sorry, only in French. Translators, thanks for contribution.

Basically, Pevenage says after 1998 T-Mobile stopped organised doping, but noticed after a few seasons that they were too far behind other teams.

He also says, that riders know exactly, that doping was systematic. As they changed teams, they would talk between themselves and exchange tips.

Interesting reading, although nothing new in all this.
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Old 07-08-10, 10:17
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nothing new in all this,

apart from even more confirmation that many teams (bar USPS) decided to abandon team medical programs for the 99 tour. It was left to individual riders to prepare themselves beforehand, and noone wanted to risk bringing the stuff with them to the tour.

Lance and his "inner" team cleaned up massively on the Ferrari program, as most guys were taking less sh*t, and not taking it during the tour. Lance was just shooting up daily as usual....that's why when the 99 research samples were tested so many of the samples, and those with the most obvious signs of regular and extensive EPO usage were his.

Luck? Deliberate and calculating decision from the Sociopath and his Hog?
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Old 07-08-10, 10:26
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Interesting also how stupidly he got caught. He explained that to communicate with Fuentes, he used to use a pre-paid phone card, but to tell Fuentes about Ullrich's stage win the Giro 2006, the pre-paid card was empty and for once he used his own phone... Fuentes was under watch and Pevenage's number got spotted.

ETA: He also mentions that he knew a lot of Fuentes' clients, and some were at the start of the TDF 2006. He's asking "what's the point of keeping on lying about it today?"... Good question, or should it rather be: what's the point of telling the truth now?

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Old 07-08-10, 13:23
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Rudy Pévenage demeure critique envers Lance Armstrong, le concurrent de l'époque. «Cette rivalité nous a poussés à faire le maximum pour le battre. On n'était pas des idiots non plus, on connaissait Armstrong avant son cancer. La métamorphose après son retour fut tellement extraordinaire. Je suis toujours convaincu que Jan était nettement plus fort physiquement.»
i thought this part speaks to the arms race and how armstrong was not only an instigator for doping on his team but -- by his actions -- made it impossible for his rivals to ride clean.

Roughly translated:

"...we weren't idiots, we knew armstrong before his cancer. The complete metamorphosis upon his return was so incredible. I will always be convinced that Jan was much stronger physically."
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Old 07-08-10, 13:42
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Pevenage is just bitter. Jan is the most tested athlete in history and has never tested positive.
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Well what do you know, it looks like things *could* have changed after 1998.
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Old 07-08-10, 13:52
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i'm a little surprised by CN's translation of the quote i mentioned above. perhaps they have access to other comments, i don't know. but i am concerned that they do not mention pevenage's clear accusation of armstrong.
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Well what do you know, it looks like things *could* have changed after 1998.
uh-huh.

*shakes head and sighs*
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Old 07-08-10, 13:57
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A bit different (still french) version from AFP

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"Chez T-Mobile, on avait tout arrêté après 1998 et je peux affirmer que notre équipe était vraiment clean dans les années qui ont suivi l'affaire Festina. (...)
In T-Mobile we stopped all after 1998 and I can tell that our team was really clean in the years that followed the Festina affair.

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"Avec tout l'argent qu'il gagnait, Jan ne pouvait pas se permettre d'être battu par des coureurs de seconde classe", explique son ancien mentor. "Jan était stressé et il prenait même du poids à cause de ça. Aujourd'hui qu'il ne court plus du tout, il est plus maigre qu'en plein milieu de la saison. Le stress a empoisonné sa carrière".
"With all the money he was making, Jan couldn't afford to lose against second-class riders. Jan was stressed and was gaining weight because of it. Today he doesn't ride anymore and he is thinner than in middle of a season. Stress poisoned his career."
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Old 07-08-10, 14:02
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i'm a little surprised by CN's translation of the quote i mentioned above. perhaps they have access to other comments, i don't know. but i am concerned that they do not mention pevenage's clear accusation of armstrong.
concerned, but surely you're not surprised?

I'd love to see how many more "hits" cyclingnews.com gets each day during a certain 3 weeks in July, and where those hits come from.

RSH is also a client of cyclingnews.com for advertising and that interactive guide thing that's almost masquerading as an official cyclingnews.com guide.
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