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16 Sep 2017 12:55

aphronesis wrote:
telencefalus wrote:excuse me i would like to know how many message i could post i was warned to not post much in sequence but i think that is not going against rules , however i don't want to be banned so just give me some info about the numbers of messages i can post many thanks


See the music thread in the general/cafe section for guidelines.

what does this mean please ?
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16 Sep 2017 12:58

Just post less than you did before you was banned and more than you just did right now. Maybe put a bit more thought into your posts, its pretty frustrating when you have the last 20 comments on the forum for everyone and its basically 20 one-liners. Its hard to take you seriously posting like that. You should be able to make that judgement yourself as vague as that may sound, try in the first place to post longer posts instead of posting every lille thing that relates to a certain rider/race over whatever.
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16 Sep 2017 13:02

Valv.Piti wrote:Just post less than you did before you was banned and more than you just did right now. Maybe put a bit more thought into your posts, its pretty frustrating when you have the last 20 comments on the forum for everyone and its basically 20 one-liners. Its hard to take you seriously posting like that. You should be able to make that judgement yourself as vague as that may sound, try in the first place to post longer posts instead of posting every lille thing that relates to a certain rider/race over whatever.

many thanks this sound reasonable , but i think i don't post nonsense things , ok there are one liners but they are in different threads.
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16 Sep 2017 13:07

telencefalus wrote:excuse me i would like to know how many message i could post i was warned to not post much in sequence but i think that is not going against rules , however i don't want to be banned so just give me some info about the numbers of messages i can post many thanks



Generally posters enjoy doing things like work, school, sleep, eat, Ride their bikes, participate in other hobbies, spend time with family, and then spend some time on online forums. You really shouldn't have enough time to post so much that you get banned (even though that's not the exact reason as to why you were banned).

It's a maturity thing. Ask yourself. Am I acting like an adult or a child.
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16 Sep 2017 13:11

Jspear wrote:
telencefalus wrote:excuse me i would like to know how many message i could post i was warned to not post much in sequence but i think that is not going against rules , however i don't want to be banned so just give me some info about the numbers of messages i can post many thanks



Generally posters enjoy doing things like work, school, sleep, eat, Ride their bikes, participate in other hobbies, spend time with family, and then spend some time on online forums. You really shouldn't have enough time to post so much that you get banned (even though that's not the exact reason as to why you were banned).

It's a maturity thing. Ask yourself. Am I acting like an adult or a child.


Well i don't think that while you have some off days someone could tell other how to spend them , however as i said in the presentation thread i post very much only in gt , and when i have some free time today i post 15 messages they are not so much , for a week zero , so get the conclusion
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16 Sep 2017 14:05

How many of the posts are of greater quality than junk?
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16 Sep 2017 14:16

telencefalus wrote:excuse me i would like to know how many message i could post i was warned to not post much in sequence but i think that is not going against rules , however i don't want to be banned so just give me some info about the numbers of messages i can post many thanks

One post in a row, that's it.

Since you told us your desire to increase your post count "to beat the record', (which we all thought you had a shot at beating laflo in about two weeks at the rate you were posting), you lost any *oopsie* moments wrt posting numerous posts in a row.

I will not continuously repeat myself to you.
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16 Sep 2017 15:07

telencefalus wrote:
Jspear wrote:
telencefalus wrote:excuse me i would like to know how many message i could post i was warned to not post much in sequence but i think that is not going against rules , however i don't want to be banned so just give me some info about the numbers of messages i can post many thanks



Generally posters enjoy doing things like work, school, sleep, eat, Ride their bikes, participate in other hobbies, spend time with family, and then spend some time on online forums. You really shouldn't have enough time to post so much that you get banned (even though that's not the exact reason as to why you were banned).

It's a maturity thing. Ask yourself. Am I acting like an adult or a child.


Well i don't think that while you have some off days someone could tell other how to spend them , however as i said in the presentation thread i post very much only in gt , and when i have some free time today i post 15 messages they are not so much , for a week zero , so get the conclusion


I'm not telling you how to spend your free time. Just sharing what a lot of people do generally speaking. Enteracting on a forum shouldn't be a competition of who's got the most posts. It should be natural conversation about a sport you love.
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16 Sep 2017 15:48

Please see the announcement about Multiple Postings.

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16 Sep 2017 18:11

So he got banned for something that wasn't against any rule, now we are all given what we are told is a reminder of something that we have never been told before, and all warned of sanctions for something that is not against a rule.

And my PM request for a suggestion as to how a new member should join in a game (which is done by PM, which in turn requires a certain number of messages) without bumping up their message count was met with a very curt response that ignored the question.

So how does a new member get to send a PM?
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16 Sep 2017 18:36

Netserk wrote:How many of the posts are of greater quality than junk?

To me the upper post is an example of JUNK
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16 Sep 2017 18:50

Absurd ban....inventing new rules to justify the situation... ridiculous, worse than issuing retrospective TUEs. But then again we are talking cycling and related issues, so the circus must continue.
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16 Sep 2017 19:00

Netserk wrote:How many of the posts are of greater quality than junk?


This right here is the important point.

I have no problem with multiple posts in a row if they are substantive (for example, blutto posting articles in the politics thread), but a bunch of junk posts is just spamming the forum (and is a common rule on many forums)
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16 Sep 2017 19:11

So what defines a junk post?

There is an enormous amount of stuff posted by just about any contributor that can be construed as junk: totally subjective, and entirely inapplicable as a standard for a rule.
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16 Sep 2017 19:13

Beech Mtn wrote:
Netserk wrote:How many of the posts are of greater quality than junk?


This right here is the important point.

I have no problem with multiple posts in a row if they are substantive (for example, blutto posting articles in the politics thread), but a bunch of junk posts is just spamming the forum (and is a common rule on many forums)


Yeah, sadly blutto was traumatized by the smart from that last ban and the quality of his pol posts is tanking. Worse, his compulsive posting disorder had spread elsewhere to the point that he's been repeating himself for days with minimal qualitative yield..
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16 Sep 2017 19:17

Junk post = of so low quality that it (greatly) lowers the signal-to-noise ratio. Needless to say, it's not a problem on a small scale, but spamming junk is harmful and bad netiquette and sanctioned on any message board.

It should be sanctioned when it destructively disturbs the exchange of views/content.
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16 Sep 2017 19:17

aphronesis wrote:
Beech Mtn wrote:
Netserk wrote:How many of the posts are of greater quality than junk?


This right here is the important point.

I have no problem with multiple posts in a row if they are substantive (for example, blutto posting articles in the politics thread), but a bunch of junk posts is just spamming the forum (and is a common rule on many forums)


Yeah, sadly blutto was traumatized by the smart from that last ban and the quality of his pol posts is tanking. Worse, his compulsive posting disorder had spread elsewhere to the point that he's been repeating himself for days with minimal qualitative yield..

Here's hoping that he'll get better after he's reached 10,000 posts :twisted:
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16 Sep 2017 19:18

Armchair cyclist wrote:So what defines a junk post?

There is an enormous amount of stuff posted by just about any contributor that can be construed as junk: totally subjective, and entirely inapplicable as a standard for a rule.

This isn't the only thing that isn't entirely black and white. We handle this the same way as the other things that aren't black and white. We discuss it among the moderators.
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16 Sep 2017 19:20

Armchair cyclist wrote:So what defines a junk post?

There is an enormous amount of stuff posted by just about any contributor that can be construed as junk: totally subjective, and entirely inapplicable as a standard for a rule.


Have you never belonged to any other internet forum? Not trying to be a smartass with that question. This is not an uncommon rule. The occasional throwaway post is no big deal. Eleventy billion of them all over the forum, or all over a particular thread, is spamming the forum.
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16 Sep 2017 19:24

Beech Mtn wrote:
Armchair cyclist wrote:So what defines a junk post?

There is an enormous amount of stuff posted by just about any contributor that can be construed as junk: totally subjective, and entirely inapplicable as a standard for a rule.


Have you never belonged to any other internet forum? Not trying to be a smartass with that question. This is not an uncommon rule. The occasional throwaway post is no big deal. Eleventy billion of them all over the forum, or all over a particular thread, is spamming the forum.

Say that my messages are spamming , ( the upper post don't say that) is a very very bad offense and i don't accept it , READ MY COMMENTS before say that are spamming please
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