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13 Jun 2016 01:16

Ferminal wrote:So the conversion of PRR to an index is finally complete it seems. At least The Clinic again proves its sanity by holding out for now, sort of (for how long?).


Eh? You talkin' about the Rider Thread Directory?
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13 Jun 2016 02:58

Ferminal wrote:So the conversion of PRR to an index is finally complete it seems. At least The Clinic again proves its sanity by holding out for now, sort of (for how long?).


The decision to use subject based threads rather than current event based ones was absolutely asinine. Didn't anyone take a peek at other forums to see how things are done elsewhere? What is really amazing is that the owners are so incompetent that none has ever checked out the forum and had the thought, "WTF! This idiotic policy about threads is costing us money."
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13 Jun 2016 09:22

I really don't see the issue with subject based threads. It keeps all the news regarding 1 rider or team together and prevents cluttering. I really wouldn't want to see a new thread for everything a rider says or does.
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13 Jun 2016 09:37

BigMac wrote:
Ferminal wrote:So the conversion of PRR to an index is finally complete it seems. At least The Clinic again proves its sanity by holding out for now, sort of (for how long?).


Eh? You talkin' about the Rider Thread Directory?


Not so much the thread itself as to what it reinforces (to be fair the war was lost long ago).

Currently on the first page I count four actual threads:

    Upper-body training for cyclists
    The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team
    The worst of race profiles
    The Bell**** of Professional Cycling (locked)

(I pay the Bahrain one as it is emergent, however there are numerous conversations to be had regarding it)

Aside from a few race threads, the remainder of the front page is fixed fora for a single subject, generally a rider or team. Using a thread as a forum in itself is a horrible deviation from standard message board operation.
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13 Jun 2016 11:42

I intensely dislike this rider-based approach, which encourages decontextualization and fanboyism, but what can you do, right. Most people seem to like it.
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13 Jun 2016 12:14

LaFlorecita wrote:I really don't see the issue with subject based threads. It keeps all the news regarding 1 rider or team together and prevents cluttering. I really wouldn't want to see a new thread for everything a rider says or does.


I'd argue that you're looking at it from the wrong end.

It is far easier (notwithstanding the poor CN forum search engine, there are other ways) to find discussions identified by title in a forum or sub-forum than it is to find them in a fugue of posts in a single thread with no identifying markers. If someone is looking to discuss a matter a bit more specific than "Valverde" or "BMC Racing" they require a fair bit of patience to read through the associated dog's breakfasts to see if a thread within a thread exists, and then maintain the patience against rival discussions.

Maybe I'm a dinosaur but where did one topic per thread (stick to OP/title, liberally interpreted) and splitting discussions which drifted too far go wrong? Reddit seems to do OK...
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13 Jun 2016 12:18

I think it's a bad idea..but hey i hardly read the PRR these days ...Basso is retired, you see. :D
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13 Jun 2016 14:24

Zam_Olyas wrote:I think it's a bad idea..but hey i hardly read the PRR these days ...Basso is retired, you see. :D

He might be creating a team with friend Alberto soon.. you will like that no?
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13 Jun 2016 14:55

DamianoMachiavelli wrote:
Ferminal wrote:So the conversion of PRR to an index is finally complete it seems. At least The Clinic again proves its sanity by holding out for now, sort of (for how long?).


The decision to use subject based threads rather than current event based ones was absolutely asinine. Didn't anyone take a peek at other forums to see how things are done elsewhere? What is really amazing is that the owners are so incompetent that none has ever checked out the forum and had the thought, "WTF! This idiotic policy about threads is costing us money."


I agree with this. I like when there were interesting offbeat thread titles discussing a specific and new aspect about a rider, a team or similar. A little like the Froome test data thread. It wasn't about his racing but about the testing data and some really good discussion came from it to then have the thread locked and everything revert into the general froome thread (and get lost between the "there's no proof").
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13 Jun 2016 15:28

LaFlorecita wrote:
Zam_Olyas wrote:I think it's a bad idea..but hey i hardly read the PRR these days ...Basso is retired, you see. :D

He might be creating a team with friend Alberto soon.. you will like that no?

Why do you always troll me with Contadors news? :D
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14 Jun 2016 21:54

You guys are free to create event-based threads all you like. Only thing is we don't want is doubling up on the same threads all the time.
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15 Jun 2016 00:08

No problem the censorship of this UK based MB is - telling in the direction you take. No worries. We all understand the direction and motivation. It's a killer and no doubt other locations have felt the same.
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15 Jun 2016 11:33

This forum is being pretty darn active for a supposedly dying forum. :D
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15 Jun 2016 12:40

RedheadDane wrote:This forum is being pretty darn active for a supposedly dying forum. :D


....yeah, the following is from the first post in this thread....which btw was posted early Jan. 2014....

We all know it is true. Time for the FID thread. This will be version 3 or 4, forget which


...seems the patient is still kicking....

...just sayin' eh....

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15 Jun 2016 15:55

Ok, you win. Too many rider discussion threads. Back then they used to be exclusive to riders who deserved them, not just someone who goes into a break and, for getting his name displayed on TV, becomes slightly less a 'nobody'. I'm for some of these topics being locked/deleted to be fair.

And of course the forum is not dying. Nor will it die unless by owners' decision.
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15 Jun 2016 16:02

I think it's safe to say that threads for riders who end up not really doing much will just fade away into nothingness. Then, if said rider suddenly reappears - as seems to have happened with Joe Dombrowski - CMP's index will make it easier/possible to check if that rider already has a thread.
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15 Jun 2016 16:10

RedheadDane wrote:I think it's safe to say that threads for riders who end up not really doing much will just fade away into nothingness. Then, if said rider suddenly reappears - as seems to have happened with Joe Dombrowski - CMP's index will make it easier/possible to check if that rider already has a thread.


Maybe. But as it stands that front page is just a pain to look at. However, I fear we'll be opening threads for every obscure rider that shows himself a bit, therefore keeping it clogged for eternity. Perhaps a single thread to discuss these one-trick ponies would work.
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15 Jun 2016 16:15

I agreer with Bigmac here. I think it kinda hurts spontaneous discussion.
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21 Jun 2016 17:50

Red Rick wrote:I agreer with Bigmac here. I think it kinda hurts spontaneous discussion.


Which is exactly what your ill-judged and pointless intervention achieved today. I treated this topic with some disdain till today, but if your action is part of the new regime around here, rather than just an individual aberration, I can guarantee a further exodus of sensible, rational posters who choose not to be treated like little kids, especially not by a brand new mod.

Maarten's life may be a fascinating subject, but it's not the topic of the thread, so let's discuss Babes on Bikes shall we?


"Get a life" is not something that needs to be edited out c.q. 'censored'! It does not constitute an invitation to a discussion about that person's life, or to a fight. It is an expression, no more. Giving me a 'warning' for the expression "get a life" leaves me speechless.
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21 Jun 2016 19:17

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Red Rick wrote:I agreer with Bigmac here. I think it kinda hurts spontaneous discussion.


Which is exactly what your ill-judged and pointless intervention achieved today. I treated this topic with some disdain till today, but if your action is part of the new regime around here, rather than just an individual aberration, I can guarantee a further exodus of sensible, rational posters who choose not to be treated like little kids, especially not by a brand new mod.

Maarten's life may be a fascinating subject, but it's not the topic of the thread, so let's discuss Babes on Bikes shall we?


"Get a life" is not something that needs to be edited out c.q. 'censored'! It does not constitute an invitation to a discussion about that person's life, or to a fight. It is an expression, no more. Giving me a 'warning' for the expression "get a life" leaves me speechless.

well yeah I have a similar example but just agreed to move along. Same moderator i would guess.

I have to let stuff go here or else I will end up banninated.

Maybe it is because they live in the same country as you do hammer?
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