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Should Dr. Maserati have been permabanned?

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No
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Total votes : 111

10 Nov 2014 17:24

MarkvW wrote:I'm not so sure! He's discussing my posting history now.


Free vortex. I feel like he might be holding back on this new account to not make it super obvious its him.
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MC: Not fully.
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10 Nov 2014 22:16

the sceptic wrote:Free vortex. I feel like he might be holding back on this new account to not make it super obvious its him.


It's not the good doctor.
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11 Nov 2014 07:30

the sceptic wrote:Free vortex. I feel like he might be holding back on this new account to not make it super obvious its him.


It might not be Maserati. Maserati was really for Floyd forgiveness and this guy isn[t quite as forgiving. Still.... I don't know...
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13 Nov 2014 20:03

Dr. Maserati wrote:You are in the UK I believe - so you posted this at 10:21am UK time.

This at 10:57 UK time.

Then this at 11:10am UK time.

Then you went to bed.....

If you have any further argument that you don't want public, then don't make your arguments in public.


Bluenote wrote:Various studies of EPO's ability to increase tumor growth is sufficient that the FDA issued a bulletin and developed a whole risk management plan, Doctor training, etc...



Who are these "some?"
Doctors? PhD medical researcher types?
The FDA?
Defenders of Armstrong on the internet?

If you know any of these "some" I suggest you tell them to contact the FDA and tell the FDA 'hey, you've got it all wrong boys.'



"some" also believe the Earth is flat. I don't find the measure "some people" agree / disagree to be a meaningful metric.



Yes, I acknowledged the underlined in my post.





Then why did you waste my time asking for "vetted" studies? Most vetted studies are behind paywalls. Yes, I can access these studies. No, I can not post them (copy write issues).



I would describe this as a "goalpost move."
-First you want "vetted" studies, which I provided.
-you ignore the importance of the FDA's actions on EPO
-But then the goalpost gets moved to 'has Bluenote studied this, what is Bluenote's scientific knowledge.'



I assume if I engage this line of argument, the goalposts will just move again. You'll be picking a nit about the statistical models the studies used, how they were regressed, how much I know about that stuff, etc...

If you're not going to accept the FDA's opinion, you're unlikely to accept anything else. Not worth wasting my time to argue this with you.



If you want to critique Archibold's imprecise use of language and say: 'hey Bro, you should have said 'EPO could be like rain on grass,' then go for it.

Though, one could turn that same criticism back on you.



You were imprecise when you said 'show the links.' You should have said 'show a 100% link,' or 'show a link that no one (not even some people!) would dispute.'



You were imprecise when you said 'some people.' How many people is 'some?' Does it matter if these 'some' are Doctors, or PhD types?

What does 'unremarkable' mean, in the context of a medical study?

We could play this language game all day. But why bother?

Archibald wasn't 100% correct when he described PEDs as gasoline to a spark, but he wasn't 100% incorrect either. Proving a guy wasn't right but he also wasn't wrong, isn't exactly winning the internet.


ChrisE wrote:Agreed, with a 'duh'.

No way is he the vortex.


No way . :eek:
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13 Nov 2014 20:45

Glenn_Wilson wrote:No way . :eek:


amazing posts.

only one person could devote that much time and effort into winning an argument on the internet.
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14 Nov 2014 00:04

the sceptic wrote:amazing posts.

only one person could devote that much time and effort into winning an argument on the internet.


There is more than one insecure person on the internet.
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14 Nov 2014 00:54

Glenn_Wilson wrote:No way . :eek:


Copy write issues? :rolleyes:
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14 Nov 2014 04:17

I really need to stop working and play with Markov chain algorithms.
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15 Nov 2014 00:35

ChrisE wrote:There is more than one insecure person on the internet.


bingo
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