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BoB's gone, here's why

27 May 2016 13:02

All,

In light of Cycling News ever expanding coverage of Women's Cycling, the thread "Babe's on Bikes" has met it's timely end. We have been asked by Cycling News to remove the thread, as it objectifies women and is offensive to almost everyone, save for a few. To mitigate the risk of continuing to alienate our women readers, it was decided that the long running thread has run it's course.

The ownership group of the CN website and our beloved forums thought that the time is right to end this chapter in forum history. As this was an owners decision, please keep any and all comments limited to this thread and not the moderation thread.

Cheers
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Re: BoB's gone, here's why

27 May 2016 14:29

Following Irondan's words, I'd like to add:

"There is no space for this type of thread whilst in the midst of trying to expand our women's cycling coverage and enhance the stature of women's cycling as a whole. The thread goes counter to this aim and only serves to alienate our female friendly audience. I can't see that it has any purpose other than to objectify women."

I hope you all understand, but please don't hesitate to get in touch with me should you wish to discuss further.

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27 May 2016 16:45

Good decision by all involved
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27 May 2016 17:36

The right move!

Thanks for the explanation.
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27 May 2016 17:44

Anyone ever notice how many views that thread got?
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27 May 2016 18:09

Personally I wasn't offended by that thread. :)

Though I did find it a bit silly that a thread titled Babes on Bikes was more or less taken over by pictures of ladies posing next to bikes.
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27 May 2016 20:46

RedheadDane wrote:Personally I wasn't offended by that thread. :)

Though I did find it a bit silly that a thread titled Babes on Bikes was more or less taken over by pictures of ladies posing next to bikes.




I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

Examples;

Yesterday;

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Today;

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I'll look forward to compliance from top management.
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27 May 2016 21:13

Surely the worst part about this, is that she's wearing sleeve-less... :p
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28 May 2016 00:57

Scott SoCal wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:Personally I wasn't offended by that thread. :)

Though I did find it a bit silly that a thread titled Babes on Bikes was more or less taken over by pictures of ladies posing next to bikes.




I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

Examples;

Yesterday;

Image

Today;

Image

I'll look forward to compliance from top management.


Maybe they'll reopen the BoB thread for you if you open a men's equivalent thread. :p
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28 May 2016 04:50

Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*
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28 May 2016 07:11

Good move.


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28 May 2016 07:51

Good news. Nice to think that women can be viewed as something other than sex objects.
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28 May 2016 10:27

Scott SoCal wrote:
I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

...



This comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Amsterhammer wrote:Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*


So classy. Your point, though?
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28 May 2016 10:30

Jspear wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:Personally I wasn't offended by that thread. :)

Though I did find it a bit silly that a thread titled Babes on Bikes was more or less taken over by pictures of ladies posing next to bikes.




I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

Examples;

Yesterday;

Image

Today;

Image

I'll look forward to compliance from top management.


Maybe they'll reopen the BoB thread for you if you open a men's equivalent thread. :p

It is already there and has been so for quite some time. IIRC it's called Men on Machines.
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28 May 2016 12:46

BigMac wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

...



This comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Amsterhammer wrote:Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*


So classy. Your point, though?


More sense than removing the thread. It's quite telling the suits viewed the thread as objectifying women rather than celebrating them.

What's next..... only show ladies riding side saddle? I can imagine there's for more cafe threads that should be deleted with current managements mindset.
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28 May 2016 14:00

This is not a black and white issue the way you want to claim it to be. There is a middle ground between Victorian-style puritanism that you sarcastically bewail with your exaggerated censorship photo-cropping as if this is some kind of human rights issue, and the thread that's been removed. Nobody's saying you're wrong to enjoy those photos. Or even to post them, believe it or not. Just that, if the site wants to increase its focus on women's cycling and wants itself to be taken seriously in its attempts to promote women's cycling, then it's counter-productive to have the main focus on women on the board to be the BoB thread. They're not saying you can only crop photos to ensure we don't see women in figure-hugging lycra, or only riding side-saddle, or whatever you want to claim. They're not going to censor, say, race photos since the site is about bike racing. Saying the BoB thread is "celebrating" rather than "objectifying" the women doesn't wash, because let's face it, what pray tell is it about these women that you are celebrating?
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28 May 2016 14:37

Or, if the site chose to ah, "celebrate" men that way, many fledgling male cycling enthusiasts (customers) might feel themselves judged and excluded.

And Foxxy's point stands: all the people saying more clicks equals more business seem to miss that it doesn't mean "female" business. Of course the market/money don't care, but it's nonetheless interesting when political values break down.
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Re: Re:

28 May 2016 14:38

BigMac wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

...



This comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Amsterhammer wrote:Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*


So classy. Your point, though?


If it needs to be explained to you.... :rolleyes: Totally on the same page as Scott, for once.
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Re: Re:

28 May 2016 14:46

Amsterhammer wrote:
BigMac wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

...



This comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Amsterhammer wrote:Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*


So classy. Your point, though?


If it needs to be explained to you.... :rolleyes: Totally on the same page as Scott, for once.


.....yup....agreed...

Cheers
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28 May 2016 15:37

blutto wrote:
Amsterhammer wrote:
BigMac wrote:
Scott SoCal wrote:
I'v been bothered since the days of wool kits regarding lycra cycling apparel objectifying cyclists, both men and women. I mean, after all, both the ladies and men are wearing very revealing clothing that is really nothing more than colorful underwear.

Since this site undoubtedly wishes to be consistent, inclusive and above all, politically correct, I'm going to go ahead and demand Cyclingnews crop all posted photos for anything below the waist for both men and women and any photos showing the female breasts (which are awful).

...



This comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Amsterhammer wrote:Jeez, I forget, was BoB just under, or over FIVE MILLION views? Pathetic cop out, pc gone mad.

*waves two middle fingers at the decision takers*


So classy. Your point, though?


If it needs to be explained to you.... :rolleyes: Totally on the same page as Scott, for once.


.....yup....agreed...

Cheers

Oh man this is getting out of control. You guys agreed with Scott.

I agree to the agreed.
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