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09 Jul 2017 18:05

Netserk wrote:Smells like spamware. I haven't seen any such links.

Hmmm. They seem to appear and disappear. Now I don't see any. Time for a virus scan,thanks :)

edit: scan couldn't find any issues.. do you use ad blocker? Might that be the difference?
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09 Jul 2017 18:06

It's explained here.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33176
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09 Jul 2017 18:09

Red Rick wrote:It's explained here.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33176

So not an issue on my side
Thanks for the explanation :)
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09 Jul 2017 18:58

Red Rick wrote:It's explained here.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33176


If that's what i think it is, it doens't create a link from said word. It highlights it but the hyperlink is not in the post per se.

An adblocker should do the trick.
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09 Jul 2017 18:59

Given that I haven't seen any of such links/highlights, it could very well be thanks to my adblocker.
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09 Jul 2017 19:13

Netserk wrote:Given that I haven't seen any of such links/highlights, it could very well be thanks to my adblocker.

Same here.
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09 Jul 2017 23:32

I know moderators have a tough job, particularly in days like today, when they want to watch a stage, but they also have to keep an eye on how people behave here and sometimes there's a thin line between what's acceptable and what's perceived as acceptable by "regular" posters. However, it's becoming trickier to understand the concept of trolling.
El Pistolero, for example, trolled hard today, like others have done in the past, yet nothing happened.
Either I'm misunderstanding that concept, which is apparently likely, or its limits fluctuate according to the phase of the cycling season we're in.
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10 Jul 2017 01:48

lenric wrote:I know moderators have a tough job, particularly in days like today, when they want to watch a stage, but they also have to keep an eye on how people behave here and sometimes there's a thin line between what's acceptable and what's perceived as acceptable by "regular" posters. However, it's becoming trickier to understand the concept of trolling.
El Pistolero, for example, trolled hard today, like others have done in the past, yet nothing happened.
Either I'm misunderstanding that concept, which is apparently likely, or its limits fluctuate according to the phase of the cycling season we're in.

We've talked about this before....

We don't read every single post the moment it's posted and during the Tour we can't possibly even try to read them all. We (mods) rely on members to report trolling and other infractions. I just looked to see if there were any reports filed on the comments that you mentioned and did not find any.

If you're expecting us to be more than we are then you will just be disappointed, we're just volunteers that rely on other members for help in doing a thankless job.

If you have an issue with a comment, report it. If after you report a comment you're still not satisfied then come to this thread and complain about it but doing so without doing your part isn't exactly fair to mods.
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10 Jul 2017 02:42

Irondan wrote:
lenric wrote:I know moderators have a tough job, particularly in days like today, when they want to watch a stage, but they also have to keep an eye on how people behave here and sometimes there's a thin line between what's acceptable and what's perceived as acceptable by "regular" posters. However, it's becoming trickier to understand the concept of trolling.
El Pistolero, for example, trolled hard today, like others have done in the past, yet nothing happened.
Either I'm misunderstanding that concept, which is apparently likely, or its limits fluctuate according to the phase of the cycling season we're in.

We've talked about this before....

We don't read every single post the moment it's posted and during the Tour we can't possibly even try to read them all. We (mods) rely on members to report trolling and other infractions. I just looked to see if there were any reports filed on the comments that you mentioned and did not find any.

If you're expecting us to be more than we are then you will just be disappointed, we're just volunteers that rely on other members for help in doing a thankless job.

If you have an issue with a comment, report it. If after you report a comment you're still not satisfied then come to this thread and complain about it but doing so without doing your part isn't exactly fair to mods.


I'm being fair with moderators. I reported 2 posts and tried to report another 2, but someone had already done it.
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31 Jul 2017 15:13

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Valv.Piti wrote:Even if he make some downright wrong statements, Im unsure if that can be categorized as trolling just because one heavily disagrees with it. So no, I definitely don't think that warrants a ban, but maybe other moderators will look at it differently.


Agree. The amount of banning and censorship in this forum is beyond ridiculous. Sometimes it is hard to present your own opinion due to the constant fear of saying something that a mod arbitrarily renders as 'trolling' or worse.
I agree the mods have the right to do so; I just wish they would be more lenient and understanding of different opinions. Let conversation flow.
Ironically, this post may be taken down by a mod.


I'll start by pointing out that this forum has a very large number of members and a fairly large number of active members. Most of these members manage to post without ever even being reported/dealt with from trolling so I don't think it's really that hard to post here without fear of being pulled up on it.

Trolling is now a vastly broad term, but in general, if a post or a part of a post appears to be designed only to aggravate a section of the membership then we will take it as trolling. This includes accusations of trolling, I know a few people aren't aware of this.

Opinions are almost always fine, it is things like saying only idiot fanboys would disagree when one has posted something that is clearly contentious that will make us take notice. Obviously certain offensive opinions are not fine and will result in a ban. Another thing that will likely make us take action is constantly stating a contentious opinion while not engaging in any discussion with those who disagree.

No one gets banned for trolling on the first offence unless it is very obvious. It is due to a pattern of posting that the member will have received at least one warning about.

We're not here to moderate acceptable opinions, everyone is entitled to their opinion here as long as it's not clearly offensive. You just can't troll and call it an opinion. Yes, the line can get a little fine at times and we always discuss it, but I think we usually get it right.
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01 Aug 2017 06:04

This confuses me "Agree. The amount of banning and censorship in this forum is beyond ridiculous. Sometimes it is hard to present your own opinion due to the constant fear of saying something that a mod arbitrarily renders as 'trolling' or worse." What exactly do you want to post? It's not very difficult to post opinions on the forum and stay within the rules, I don't think Ive ever needed to check myself before posting worrying that it might get me banned.
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01 Aug 2017 13:06

StryderHells wrote:This confuses me "Agree. The amount of banning and censorship in this forum is beyond ridiculous. Sometimes it is hard to present your own opinion due to the constant fear of saying something that a mod arbitrarily renders as 'trolling' or worse." What exactly do you want to post? It's not very difficult to post opinions on the forum and stay within the rules, I don't think Ive ever needed to check myself before posting worrying that it might get me banned.


Indeed it isn't at all difficult to post without worrying about a ban. 7+ years and 6K posts later I've never had an issue. Just follow the rules and ignore the baiters and trolls :)
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03 Aug 2017 09:24

King Boonen, got your PM but cant reply with an explanation. Not a sock puppet, just a new account. Your assumptions are correct however. When Can I PM you with an explanation?
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03 Aug 2017 09:37

FlandersCobble wrote:King Boonen, got your PM but cant reply with an explanation. Not a sock puppet, just a new account. Your assumptions are correct however. When Can I PM you with an explanation?


I'm not sure, there is a limit on number of posts until you can PM but none of us seem to know what it is :D

If that's the case keep posting, I'll/we'll approve them and try again when you hit 5 or 10. You can use your old account to do it too if you want.
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03 Aug 2017 09:42

King Boonen wrote:
FlandersCobble wrote:King Boonen, got your PM but cant reply with an explanation. Not a sock puppet, just a new account. Your assumptions are correct however. When Can I PM you with an explanation?


I'm not sure, there is a limit on number of posts until you can PM but none of us seem to know what it is :D

If that's the case keep posting, I'll/we'll approve them and try again when you hit 5 or 10. You can use your old account to do it too if you want.


*DING* old account, didnt think of that. I shall drop a PM shortly!
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03 Aug 2017 16:20

FlandersCobble wrote:
King Boonen wrote:
FlandersCobble wrote:King Boonen, got your PM but cant reply with an explanation. Not a sock puppet, just a new account. Your assumptions are correct however. When Can I PM you with an explanation?


I'm not sure, there is a limit on number of posts until you can PM but none of us seem to know what it is :D

If that's the case keep posting, I'll/we'll approve them and try again when you hit 5 or 10. You can use your old account to do it too if you want.


*DING* old account, didnt think of that. I shall drop a PM shortly!

You'll have to continue to use your "old account" as well because creating "new accounts" is strictly forbidden.
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03 Aug 2017 19:30

King Boonen I have tried to send you a DM but its sat in my Outbox
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03 Aug 2017 21:24

MartinGT wrote:King Boonen I have tried to send you a DM but its sat in my Outbox

PMs stay in your outbox until they are read :)
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23 Aug 2017 07:04

Don't forget to un-sticky Volta Portugal Thread in PRR
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06 Sep 2017 20:15

Mods can the Motor thread in the Clinic change to a more generic title about Motor fraud than “first rider caught”?
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