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From the kilo to the hour record, if it's on the velodrome it goes in here

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25 Jul 2012 16:02

Here is a cpmprehensive list of hour record holders that dates way back:
http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_recordsHour.html
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25 Jul 2012 16:08

avanti wrote:Here is a cpmprehensive list of hour record holders that dates way back:
http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_recordsHour.html


If only I could bring my bike back with me to the 1880s... I think I could set that record (and with a decent velodrome)

And I don't have a nice bike even.
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25 Jul 2012 17:09

avanti wrote:If the UK does very well in the Olympics I wonder if Sky would field a track team - this would add publicity to Sky during the winter (6-days, world cups, revolutions, and world championship).


They already do I thought?
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25 Jul 2012 17:42

avanti wrote:If the UK does very well in the Olympics I wonder if Sky would field a track team - this would add publicity to Sky during the winter (6-days, world cups, revolutions, and world championship).


They sponsor the track GB team and have fielded teams in the past in World Cups.

If you mean the Sky riders specifically then I doubt that will ever happen.
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25 Jul 2012 21:55

Froome19 wrote:They sponsor the track GB team and have fielded teams in the past in World Cups.

If you mean the Sky riders specifically then I doubt that will ever happen.


Cav, Stannard, Dowsett, Rowe, Downing, Swift, Kennaugh... all have ridden for Sky in the Revolutions
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26 Jul 2012 14:17

A few years back a certain 7 time Grand Tour winner
invited everyone (via twitter) to come down to the
Los Angeles velodrome and watch him do some tests.
He showed up with a film crew and his security went
around and confiscated cameras from all that showed
up. He then proceeded to ride several laps on the
blue and after a few bike changes/adjustments he
eventually made it onto (barely) the actual track.
I would have loved to see a jnr./cat.5 trackie ride
past him up at the fence and give him 'the look.'
The Grand Tour winner or his entourage never spoke
of the track again.
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01 Dec 2012 14:52

oldcrank wrote:a few years back a certain 0 time grand tour winner
invited everyone (via twitter) to come down to the
los angeles velodrome and watch him do some tests.
He showed up with a film crew and his security went
around and confiscated cameras from all that showed
up. He then proceeded to ride several laps on the
blue and after a few bike changes/adjustments he
eventually made it onto (barely) the actual track.
I would have loved to see a jnr./cat.5 trackie ride
past him up at the fence and give him 'the look.'
the grand tour winner or his entourage never spoke
of the track again.


fixed your post

How'd did I never hear about that story? He made a big deal about wanting making a run at the hour record.
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03 Dec 2012 23:34

Zweistein wrote:fixed your post

How'd did I never hear about that story? He made a big deal about wanting making a run at the hour record.

Thanks for fixing the post. Can't believe I didn't put
7 time "winner"...I guess I was in a hurry.
Anyway, it was early February 2009 and there was
a thread at FixedGearFever mocking him and a brief
article in Velonews online (predictably) swooning
over him.
EDIT:Curiously, Armstrong's velodrome ride was just
days before Taylor Phinney's absolutely stunning
4.15.223 pursuit at the Copenhagen World Cup where
he finished about 10 seconds faster than his closest
rival. Phinney had signed with the Trek-Livestrong U23
squad about five months previously.
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21 Dec 2012 04:21

avanti wrote:If the UK does very well in the Olympics I wonder if Sky would field a track team - this would add publicity to Sky during the winter (6-days, world cups, revolutions, and world championship).

world cups and world championships you compete for your nation, 6-Days are kind of an old boys network where each race decides what sponsers get what riders, the riders will wear their trade team shorts, but not jerseys, and not always paired up with trade teammates, and Sky is not part of that network, so the Revolution series is the only one they can do as Team Sky, and they do them all.
I just hope Cav's move to OPQS will give him to opportunity to get back on the boards, him and Iljo would be unstoppable in the 6-days
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21 Dec 2012 08:12

CobbleStoner wrote:world cups and world championships you compete for your nation,


there are track trade teams for world cups, but not world championships.
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22 Dec 2012 20:06

CobbleStoner wrote:world cups and world championships you compete for your nation, 6-Days are kind of an old boys network where each race decides what sponsers get what riders, the riders will wear their trade team shorts, but not jerseys, and not always paired up with trade teammates, and Sky is not part of that network, so the Revolution series is the only one they can do as Team Sky, and they do them all.
I just hope Cav's move to OPQS will give him to opportunity to get back on the boards, him and Iljo would be unstoppable in the 6-days


I believe it was the track world cup event a couple of years ago where Britain fielded two teams.. one called GB and one called Team Sky.

Though the Team Sky one consisted of Vicky, Hoy rather than actually the riders from Team Sky.
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29 Dec 2012 03:31

From what I heard, he kept comparing his watts and speed on a time trial bike to the old-style bike record. Turns out he was way short of the speed needed. The track bike he was 'testing' wasn't round tubes anyway and his wheels had aero spokes. Some say it was just a publicity stunt. The talk switched to altitude, which was his best chance to get his speed near 50.

Maybe Wiggins can win the Giro and take the summer to train for the hour?
How about a tandem hour record with Cancellara?
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21 May 2013 09:14

He goes with TdF form he wins it easy, but that's the point of winning that?
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19 Sep 2014 13:41

Wiggins can probably still beat Jens with some heavy track training, especially now that the new rules are in place. Still not sure why Colby Pierce's 'legal bike' record of 49.8 was discounted (not his attempt on the Lotus, which is deemed illegal).
Jens smashed many expectations, but he has never been in the status of Wiggins, Cancellara, and Martin.
I'm guessing Wiggins could do 51.55, Cancellara 51.85, Martin 52.01.
I haven't seen Jens attempt yet. However, Wiggins is known for painting the line and with that many laps, he could ride much closer to 52 than either Cancellara or Martin riding at 52 (and missing most of their turns by a meter each time.) I have raced with a front disc and I know it takes much more concentration, esp. in the turns.
If Wiggins puts the number much higher, Cancellara may seek a higher altitude.
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19 Sep 2014 14:21

TShame wrote:.......... Still not sure why Colby Pierce's 'legal bike' record of 49.8 was discounted (not his attempt on the Lotus, which is deemed illegal).
............


Not sure of the timing but now riders attempting the UCI hour record must be using the biological passport program. Terrible rule as there are amateurs (in the UK) who believe they can break it.
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20 Sep 2014 04:57

TShame wrote:Wiggins can probably still beat Jens with some heavy track training, especially now that the new rules are in place. Still not sure why Colby Pierce's 'legal bike' record of 49.8 was discounted (not his attempt on the Lotus, which is deemed illegal).
Jens smashed many expectations, but he has never been in the status of Wiggins, Cancellara, and Martin.
I'm guessing Wiggins could do 51.55, Cancellara 51.85, Martin 52.01.
I haven't seen Jens attempt yet. However, Wiggins is known for painting the line and with that many laps, he could ride much closer to 52 than either Cancellara or Martin riding at 52 (and missing most of their turns by a meter each time.) I have raced with a front disc and I know it takes much more concentration, esp. in the turns.
If Wiggins puts the number much higher, Cancellara may seek a higher altitude.


I don't understand why Boardman's 93 world record is diqualified.Seems like a legal bike/position.
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20 Sep 2014 20:56

simo1733 wrote:I don't understand why Boardman's 93 world record is diqualified.Seems like a legal bike/position.


Aero bars are too far past the front hub would be my guess.

http://www.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000leTGMDV46jc/s/600/400/DSC0533.jpg

edit: also not a commercially available bike, not with that headtube/handlebar configuration.
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20 Sep 2014 22:43

twothirds wrote:Aero bars are too far past the front hub would be my guess.

http://www.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000leTGMDV46jc/s/600/400/DSC0533.jpg

edit: also not a commercially available bike, not with that headtube/handlebar configuration.


Yet his pursuit record on same bike set up stood until 2011.
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21 Sep 2014 13:22

TShame wrote:Wiggins can probably still beat Jens with some heavy track training, especially now that the new rules are in place. Still not sure why Colby Pierce's 'legal bike' record of 49.8 was discounted (not his attempt on the Lotus, which is deemed illegal).
Jens smashed many expectations, but he has never been in the status of Wiggins, Cancellara, and Martin.
I'm guessing Wiggins could do 51.55, Cancellara 51.85, Martin 52.01.
I haven't seen Jens attempt yet. However, Wiggins is known for painting the line and with that many laps, he could ride much closer to 52 than either Cancellara or Martin riding at 52 (and missing most of their turns by a meter each time.) I have raced with a front disc and I know it takes much more concentration, esp. in the turns.
If Wiggins puts the number much higher, Cancellara may seek a higher altitude.
i am reasonably sure that (when properly trained within the latest uci rules) wiggins' potential is at least 53 k and martins around 54 k. both imo have much bigger natural aerobic engines than jens...
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21 Sep 2014 14:40

TShame wrote:Wiggins can probably still beat Jens with some heavy track training, especially now that the new rules are in place. Still not sure why Colby Pierce's 'legal bike' record of 49.8 was discounted (not his attempt on the Lotus, which is deemed illegal).
Jens smashed many expectations, but he has never been in the status of Wiggins, Cancellara, and Martin.
I'm guessing Wiggins could do 51.55, Cancellara 51.85, Martin 52.01.
I haven't seen Jens attempt yet. However, Wiggins is known for painting the line and with that many laps, he could ride much closer to 52 than either Cancellara or Martin riding at 52 (and missing most of their turns by a meter each time.) I have raced with a front disc and I know it takes much more concentration, esp. in the turns.
If Wiggins puts the number much higher, Cancellara may seek a higher altitude.


Boardman did 52.27 in 1993 with 410W. Wiggins went 445W for 66 minutes at the 2013 world's TT, and technology has moved on in the last 21 (!) years. 54km for Wiggins, close to 55km for Martin would be a more reasonable guess. Voigt wasn't even wearing a proper aero helmet
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