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26 Apr 2013 14:15

I don't see this posted - and I thought it was a nice little clip about keirin. I also didn't see a kierin thread - if it exists, I'll merge the threads.

http://www.nowness.com/day/2011/3/8/574/keirin--speed-racers?ecid=ob001&utm_source=sem_outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=OB_japan%20speed%20cycling&utm_term=speed%20cycling
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29 Apr 2013 17:56

This is classic old footage here - two great quotes, commentator "a nervous look on Nakano's face" I wonder why?

Singleton "It all happened so quick" ....I'll say!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx_5pQSWdRY&feature=share&list=PLLVeiI2cYX7LTcylTXOV0G4xWMoOJ0sF4

Koichi Nakano was the best sprinter to come out of the Kerin school.

A Kerin classic.

http://youtu.be/3uBN65cT7p0
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30 Apr 2013 03:11

Thank you, horsin!
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30 Apr 2013 03:14

Keirin holds a special place in my mind - as the equipment is so tightly regulated it gets down to the cyclist, in many ways, yes?

Madison events - you could say they have died, but kierin lives. This is another thing about it that attracts me.

You?
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16 May 2013 02:49

hiero2 wrote:Keirin holds a special place in my mind - as the equipment is so tightly regulated it gets down to the cyclist, in many ways, yes?

Madison events - you could say they have died, but kierin lives. This is another thing about it that attracts me.

You?


Kierin in the West and under UCI is very different from the Japanese gambling tracks! At the national events here in Thailand, the motorpace comes from an old scooter (Honda Dream or something like that)
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21 May 2013 04:01

horsinabout wrote:This is classic old footage here - two great quotes, commentator "a nervous look on Nakano's face" I wonder why?

Singleton "It all happened so quick" ....I'll say!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx_5pQSWdRY&feature=share&list=PLLVeiI2cYX7LTcylTXOV0G4xWMoOJ0sF4

Koichi Nakano was the best sprinter to come out of the Kerin school.

A Kerin classic.

http://youtu.be/3uBN65cT7p0


horsin: re the Nakano vs Singleton match video - who do you think was at fault for Singleton's fall? I thought it was pretty obvious, based on the vid, but what do I know? :D
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22 May 2013 02:39

Singleton was clearly out of the sprinter's lane (for the second time).
Under the rules of the day (and today) he faced disqualification,
especially after getting a bit of a reprieve in the Keirin. In the Keirin
he was clearly the fastest, but in those days the Keirin was still more
of a race for 6-day/endurance riders.
There is little doubt Nakano had a little more professional savvy and
experience than Singleton, and he used it, but it cannot be disputed
that Singleton did not hold his line and could possibly have been
disqualified even if there was no crash....he certainly would have
been if he rode like that in 2012. That is not to say that Gord was
not the faster man on that day though. Sadly we will never know.
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22 May 2013 03:06

That was what I thought - Singleton looked to me to be aiming for the contact. And, when Nakano mostly avoided it, Singleton was then off-balance, and went down. When I watched his interview afterward, I could not help but lose respect for Singleton. Altlhough track was not my thing back then, on watching this, and the interview with Singleton, I believe I remember these events, even if only in bits and pieces.
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23 May 2013 15:25

hiero2 wrote:Keirin holds a special place in my mind - as the equipment is so tightly regulated it gets down to the cyclist, in many ways, yes?

In Japan the women's keirin riders have their helmets
colour coded with front tri-spoke and rear disc and they
use carbon fibre bikes. See Kaarle McColloch's twitter
for video and picture links to the International Women's
Keirin in March of this year.
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25 May 2013 15:59

So not only do we have Mr Blobby men, we have Ms blobby women too. Got hooked in on this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VL7nOr_xtUg#at=119

Not sure about the arm actions:confused: For me too regimented.......:eek: Looks at first glance like WW3 gone be happening. Think its all in good humour???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=qhICEiQ1ik0&feature=endscreen
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25 May 2013 17:20

So not only do we have Mr Blobby men, we have Ms blobby women too. Got hooked in on this one:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...Or_xtUg#at=119

Not sure about the arm actions:confused: For me too regimented....... Looks at first glance like WW3 gone be happening. Think its all in good humour....I hopa hopa???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v...ture=endscreen
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25 May 2013 17:22

So not only do we have Mr Blobby men, we have Ms blobby women too. Got hooked in on this one:cool:

http://youtu.be/VL7nOr_xtUg

Not sure about the arm actions:confused: For me too regimented....... Looks at first glance like WW3 gone be happening:eek:. Think its all in good humour....I hopa hopa???

http://youtu.be/qhICEiQ1ik0




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26 May 2013 16:30

The blobby helmets? They look like a cross between a boxer's headgear and those TT mushrooms we saw at the London Olympics! I see shoulder pads - but they look lighter than the men's - and no arm protectors. Still riding with toe clips?

Of course - the extra weight - no mountains to climb here, eh?
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27 May 2013 02:48

The Perko Doco part one of five released one
part per day over five days 27-31 May.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN1YVoTp2sA
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28 May 2013 03:34

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29 May 2013 03:15

Chapter Three of the excellent new documentary about
Aussie Shane Perkins, the 2011 World Keirin Champion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSECw5pUbfA
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21 Jun 2013 03:42

hiero2 wrote:That was what I thought - Singleton looked to me to be aiming for the contact. And, when Nakano mostly avoided it, Singleton was then off-balance, and went down. When I watched his interview afterward, I could not help but lose respect for Singleton. Altlhough track was not my thing back then, on watching this, and the interview with Singleton, I believe I remember these events, even if only in bits and pieces.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYfHAxc0RH0&list=PLLVeiI2cYX7LTcylTXOV0G4xWMoOJ0sF4

Starting at 4:08, the incident at 7:00, but the whole video is pretty good
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Re: Kierin

30 Apr 2015 16:39

Nice article which includes a video of an impressive,
but narrow victory by Perko-sama recently in Japan.
http://www.cycling.org.au/News/All-News/Track/perko-back-in-the-land-of-the-rising-keirin
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Re: Kierin

21 May 2015 04:18

Another short video from Perko-sama in Japan.
This one is head-tube-cam footage of training
prior to his most recent win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfzX261klr0
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Re: Kierin

21 May 2015 16:06

Not sure how long Bill Huck has been working
with Cycling USA, but young Matt Baranoski
finished second behind Joachim Eillers and
ahead of Maximillian Levy in the Keirin at the
Cottbusser SprintCup last weekend. Maybe
the Americans are getting serious about track
again...let us hope so!!
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