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08 Oct 2016 15:24

Professional athletes use any any kind of supplements, which often verge into shades of grey, and which are weird and wacky to gain an advantage - I doubt supplements have the same effects on each rider - So it's very much a walk into the wild.
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08 Oct 2016 15:42

if we're interested in anecdotes, I've tried a wide variety of dietary strategies (for weeks-months at a time):
- pescatarian
- ketogenic
- carb back-loading
- various IF protocols
- free-for-all

My cholesterol got better when I switched out carbs for dietary fat, but as far as athletic performance, body composition, or subjective feelings, no diet really made much difference. I've concluded that humans are incredibly adaptable and pretty much any diet will do the trick. Kind of puts paid to the adage of "you are what you eat" --- I'd instead say that "you are what you are, despite what you eat".
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Re: Ketone drinks

06 Jul 2018 11:26

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2018/07/05/tour-de-france-riders-ready-fuel-ketones-mysterious-energy/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw


HVMN, a San Francisco-based company, was granted a commercial licence to manufacture the world’s first ketone ester drink, HVMN Ketone, back in April. And its chief executive Geoff Woo has told Telegraph Sport that “seven teams will be drinking ketones as part of their nutrition strategy” at this Tour.
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Re: Ketone drinks

06 Jul 2018 12:17

pastronef wrote:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2018/07/05/tour-de-france-riders-ready-fuel-ketones-mysterious-energy/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw


HVMN, a San Francisco-based company, was granted a commercial licence to manufacture the world’s first ketone ester drink, HVMN Ketone, back in April. And its chief executive Geoff Woo has told Telegraph Sport that “seven teams will be drinking ketones as part of their nutrition strategy” at this Tour.


Not Sky, no, they told us they dont know what keytones are. No Sky are purely bread and water with a drop of pinapple juice. :D
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12 Oct 2018 09:43

There was an interesting article in Telegraph about it.They asked several teams and Team Sky, Mitchelton-Scott, Groupama-FDJ, Dimension Data and Sunweb all denied that their riders would be using synthetic ketones in Tour this year and only BMC declined to comment. Sky's nutritionist James Morton who was interviewed about then claimed Froome didn't use synthetic ketones and that they use nutrition, not ketone ester as the science isn't yet proven.
"There are a few studies out there which suggest that different forms of Ketones produce different results. The Ketone ester is very different to Ketone salts, for instance.
The evidence for using Ketone ester – which is this drink they’ve created – seems to be that it reduces the emphasis on carbohydrate metabolism. On the one hand, this could be a good thing as it may spare muscle glycogen use meaning you have more for later. On the other, if it surpasses the ability of muscle to use carbohydrate as a fuel then this could really be detrimental to performance. So, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing is too early to say."
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Re: Ketone drinks

12 Oct 2018 11:00

Benotti69 wrote:
pastronef wrote:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2018/07/05/tour-de-france-riders-ready-fuel-ketones-mysterious-energy/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw


HVMN, a San Francisco-based company, was granted a commercial licence to manufacture the world’s first ketone ester drink, HVMN Ketone, back in April. And its chief executive Geoff Woo has told Telegraph Sport that “seven teams will be drinking ketones as part of their nutrition strategy” at this Tour.


Not Sky, no, they told us they dont know what keytones are. No Sky are purely bread and water with a drop of pinapple juice. :D


That's not true. I have heard that some of their riders actually use - gasp! - synthetic multivitamins.

(Joking aside, this newfound focus on ketones as a fuel source and whether they are "natural" or synthetic is ridiculous.)
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12 Oct 2018 11:06

By synthetic, they just mean are they using the ketone ester rather than the naturally-derived ketone salts and/or via ketogenic diet.
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12 Oct 2018 11:16

I thought Froome was seen downing a purple/pinkish bottle at the Giro which some sleuths identified as a ketone brand?
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12 Oct 2018 11:58

Given the marketing from SIS and Sky after it, I remember it being SIS Beta Fuel. At least in Giro. Not sure about Tour this year though?
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