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31 May 2018 14:45

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Re: General Doping Thread.

05 Jun 2018 20:01

"twitter rumors" (so I take it with a pinch of salt ;) ) of a Colombian testosterone positive in Milano-Torino 2017

4 months silent UCI ban this winter

Milano-Torino Oct 5th
Colombia Oroy Paz Feb 6th

4 months

https://www.twitter.com/cycling_troll/status/1004029569278488576
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05 Jun 2018 20:13

The test doesn't come back positive until quite a while after the day the sample is taken.
So, for that to be possible, one of these would have to be true:

- Ban is 4 months from the date of the positive being communicated to the rider. Less than 4 months before Oro y Paz so he wouldn't have ridden that. Of the 12 colombians at Milano - Torino 2017 every single one was riding at Oro y Paz or earlier

- Ban is backdated 4 months from Milano - Torino. No riders have been stripped from the results of Lombardia, Guanxi or Turkey so the rider did not ride any of those, which only applies to Ivan Sosa. And it can't be him because the guy making the claim claims it's someone important

Conclusion: Likely not true
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05 Jun 2018 20:17

GuyIncognito wrote:The test doesn't come back positive until quite a while after the day the sample is taken.
So, for that to be possible, one of these would have to be true:

- Ban is 4 months from the date of the positive being communicated to the rider. Less than 4 months before Oro y Paz so he wouldn't have ridden that. Of the 12 colombians at Milano - Torino 2017 every single one was riding at Oro y Paz or earlier

- Ban is backdated 4 months from Milano - Torino. No riders have been stripped from the results of Lombardia, Guanxi or Turkey so the rider did not ride any of those, which only applies to Ivan Sosa. And it can't be him because the guy making the claim claims it's someone important

Conclusion: Likely not true


the results maybe havent been stripped yet because it was a silent ban?
anyway
it´s just twitter speculation/fake news for now
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12 Jun 2018 16:55

Since a magic-pill type of doping was being discussed ... well, everywhere... in the context of sky's trans-formative abilities I'll just leave this here as a possible data point:https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/health/athletes-gene-editing-doping-sport-intl/index.html
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14 Jun 2018 10:32

It seems that in the past few years, someone gets done just before the TdF. A warning shot to other riders maybe. With Mr Froome's problems, one more case might be one too many.
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14 Jun 2018 10:44

Robert5091 wrote:It seems that in the past few years, someone gets done just before the TdF. A warning shot to other riders maybe. With Mr Froome's problems, one more case might be one too many.
Or the CADF do more testing in the lead up to the Tour...
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