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07 May 2018 16:28

Gerolsteiner were dirty dirty for sure. Now I'm feeling compelled to go back and look at them with deeper hindsight.
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07 May 2018 22:28

Najar gave us an evening of genuine hilarity earlier this year and I will remember him fondly, along with the likes of Gabrovski.
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08 May 2018 17:42

Zinoviev Letter wrote:Najar gave us an evening of genuine hilarity earlier this year and I will remember him fondly, along with the likes of Gabrovski.

The problem is he mostly dragged the camera along with him
so we missed see the racing back down the field.
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09 May 2018 14:45

Najar's team basically telling the UCI to eff off. That's gonna fix things for them. :lol:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/illegal-and-unacceptable-sep-team-hit-out-at-uci-over-najar-cera-case/

Whatever you may think about the UCI, the fact that really pretty much the entire cycling world outside a handful of team principals and federation heads can dismiss these clowns is a huge improvement over ten years ago, methinks.
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15 May 2018 20:49

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Its still a joke though (that is, American sports and doping): Cano decides to “accept the suspension” a day after getting hit by a pitch that broke his wrist and forcing him to miss roughly 8 weeks of the season to recover. True, he cannot play in the playoffs, but then again, his team (my team, the Seattle Mariners) now have the current longest streak of NOT making the postseason of any team in the big-4 American pro sports!
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15 May 2018 22:14

Never tested positive!
https://nypost.com/2018/05/15/behind-the-masking-drug-that-got-robinson-cano-banned/
Though he admitted to using Furosemide, Cano adamantly denied taking PEDs in the statement.

“I would never do anything to cheat the rules of the game that I love,” he said, “and after undergoing dozens of drug tests for more than a decade, I have never tested positive for a Performance Enhancing Substance for the simple reason that I have never taken one.”
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16 May 2018 04:48

https://sputniknews.com/sport/201805151064469955-swedish-athletes-doping-use-exposed/

The Fancy Bears hacker group has published a number of documents obtained from the Swedish Sports Confederation (Riksidrottsförbundet)


Original article in Swedish -
https://www.dn.se/sport/rf-polisanmaler-dataintrang/

Apart from some bickering between people nothing new to read about.
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16 May 2018 17:13



MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.
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16 May 2018 23:44

yaco wrote:MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

Does MLB have off season PED testing?
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17 May 2018 12:27

https://www.twitter.com/DopeologyDotOrg/status/997057555103920128

According to the UCI's sanction list updated today, Kevyn Ista recorded an ADRV for Furosemide on Stage 4 of February's Etoile de Bessèges and received a reprimand. Furosemide is a diuretic and prohibited at all times under WADA rules. No media reports available on this yet.
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Pazuzu wrote:
yaco wrote:MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.

Does MLB have off season PED testing?


My understanding this is the case - You will need to double check.
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23 May 2018 00:01

Baseball player says drug testing "is not random":

Carlos Gomez, the veteran Tampa Bay Rays outfielder, says he’s already been drug tested between five and seven times this season. Meanwhile, Gomez says he knows at least one player on his team hasn’t been drug tested at all. His conclusion: MLB’s random drug tests aren’t random...

“It’s not random. It’s not random. I can put my hand on fire, it’s not random,” Gomez told Yahoo Sports MLB Podcast host Jeff Passan. “They pick guys. I think it’s something the way you play, the way you act … I’m the oldest guy on the team. I get here earlier than everybody. Why? Because I have to work harder to maintain my body to support the rest of the season. When I do that and they come to you and have a drug test every time, you get furious. You get mad. One month into the season I got like seven drug tests. Something like that. Between five or seven. That’s not right. We have a guy on the team who for sure hasn’t had one drug test.”


Index of suspicion?

Gomez said he feels like two groups of players are targeted for drug tests: Older players and Latin players. Gomez, 32, said he and Rays teammates Sergio Romo (35) and Denard Span (34) have been tested frequently this season.

An MLB spokesman told Yahoo Sports the league’s drug testing is handled by an independent program administrator selected by the league and the players’ union. MLB has no control over who is chosen to be tested, the spokesman said, and the league maintains testing is random.


In one week I had two blood tests. Two in one week. I mean, like, what are you looking for?


https://sports.yahoo.com/carlos-gomez-mlb-drug-testing-isnt-random-targets-older-latin-players-170350540.html
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24 May 2018 01:27

yaco wrote:


MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.


In April an NBA player (Jodie Meeks) got banned 25 games for Ipamorelin (GH peptide) and GHRP-2.

He missed the last 4 games of Washington's season, plus their 6 playoff games, so he has 15 left - about a month - at the start of next season (out of 82 games!). That makes a grand total of about 7 weeks out.

It's the longest drug ban in NBA history :lol:
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24 May 2018 13:36

luckyboy wrote:
yaco wrote:


MLB has the best drug policy of all American Pro Sports - First offence is 82 games which is in effect half a season, 2nd offence is a full season and a third offence is life.


In April an NBA player (Jodie Meeks) got banned 25 games for Ipamorelin (GH peptide) and GHRP-2.

He missed the last 4 games of Washington's season, plus their 6 playoff games, so he has 15 left - about a month - at the start of next season (out of 82 games!). That makes a grand total of about 7 weeks out.

It's the longest drug ban in NBA history :lol:


My post is referring to NHL - And sensibly American pro sports are not part of the WADA Code.
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24 May 2018 20:52

ngent41 wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23592698/welington-castillo-chicago-white-sox-given-80-game-suspension-violating-mlb-drug-policy

baseball player suspended for using EPO


That's a pretty odd drug to take for baseball. Wonder what's behind that.
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25 May 2018 16:47

My spidey senses are tingling. Yates, Chaves, Aru. No talk of illness. Not accusing all of them, maybe it's just that the effects of the latest altitude camps are wearing off earlier than expected.
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25 May 2018 20:38

#donewithprocycling

#donewithnfl

Another Landis.

I'll continue to watch the Spring Classics & Strade Bianchi.

The sport is dead.

I am mourning the death of the Grand Tours?

+ Yates? How does it feel to be out-doped?
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