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11 Nov 2016 14:00

http://www.svt.se/sport/ishockey/hockeyspelare-i-ljungby-avstangd-for-dopningsforseelse

A young player in Troja-Ljungby's ice hockey juniorteam in Sweden decided to not take a doping test but do a runner and has now been banned for 4 years. They have not gone out with name and details due to his young age - under 18 probably.
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15 Nov 2016 07:28

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/afp/2016/11/doping-wada-qatar-qat.html
WADA suspends Doha test lab for four months

World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) officials have suspended the drug testing analysis laboratory in Doha, Qatar for four months for failing to meet tougher new guidelines, WADA announced Monday.

The suspension, which began on November 7, prohibits the laboratory from any anti-doping measures, such as analysis of urine or blood samples. Those must now be transported to another WADA-accredited lab.

A WADA announcement said the lab accreditation was suspended due to stringent new quality assessment procedures. The Qatar lab has 21 days from the serving of notice to appeal the ban to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

Details of exactly what areas the Qatar lab failed to measure up were not revealed.

The lab can apply for reinstatement earlier than next March if it makes changes to conform, while it could face an extra six months suspended if it fails to improve within four months.

Another site assessment would be required to reinstate the Doha lab, but it could also uncover other areas that would also need to be addressed before reinstatement.
(Not good news with the Association of National Olympic Committee's General Assembly, which begins on Wednesday in Qatar - International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Thomas Bach said on Monday that he could "imagine" Qatar will bid to host a future Summer Olympics. (Summer Olympics in Qatar?! )
see http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/afp/2016/11/athletics-oly-qat-bach-anoc.html)
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15 Nov 2016 14:17

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15 Nov 2016 16:20

That Thomas Dekker Interview...


http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/media/366796
In Dutch obviously
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15 Nov 2016 16:39

Breh wrote:That Thomas Dekker Interview...


http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/media/366796
In Dutch obviously


Interesting how Jacques Hanegraaf informs the parents of young Thomas that their son is going to start using doping.
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15 Nov 2016 17:00

Robert5091 wrote:http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/afp/2016/11/doping-wada-qatar-qat.html
WADA suspends Doha test lab for four months

World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) officials have suspended the drug testing analysis laboratory in Doha, Qatar for four months for failing to meet tougher new guidelines, WADA announced Monday.

The suspension, which began on November 7, prohibits the laboratory from any anti-doping measures, such as analysis of urine or blood samples. Those must now be transported to another WADA-accredited lab.

A WADA announcement said the lab accreditation was suspended due to stringent new quality assessment procedures. The Qatar lab has 21 days from the serving of notice to appeal the ban to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

Details of exactly what areas the Qatar lab failed to measure up were not revealed.

The lab can apply for reinstatement earlier than next March if it makes changes to conform, while it could face an extra six months suspended if it fails to improve within four months.

Another site assessment would be required to reinstate the Doha lab, but it could also uncover other areas that would also need to be addressed before reinstatement.
(Not good news with the Association of National Olympic Committee's General Assembly, which begins on Wednesday in Qatar - International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Thomas Bach said on Monday that he could "imagine" Qatar will bid to host a future Summer Olympics. (Summer Olympics in Qatar?! )
see http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/afp/2016/11/athletics-oly-qat-bach-anoc.html)


Seems like the only things WADA catches these days are labs and russians.
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15 Nov 2016 18:37

The Dekker book is really an astonishing read.

I hope it gets translated into English. Gives great insight into the system and omerta of, hopefully, the past.
After his suspension the book is a lot more boring, basically Dekker has lost confidence and the will to train. Culture seemed to have changed as well w/ regards to dope.. but ofcourse, that';s only from dekkers perspective, we don't know how it goes on for other pro's and other teams.
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15 Nov 2016 20:11

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:The Dekker book is really an astonishing read.

I hope it gets translated into English. Gives great insight into the system and omerta of, hopefully, the past.
After his suspension the book is a lot more boring, basically Dekker has lost confidence and the will to train. Culture seemed to have changed as well w/ regards to dope.. but ofcourse, that';s only from dekkers perspective, we don't know how it goes on for other pro's and other teams.


Every single time someone does an expose or we find out about how they doped the year before, it is spoken about as "the bad era" and always as if it's past.

Not buying it. They did it after Festina, Puerto, Postal, Rasmussen, and on back through the years. I would have to see years and years of hard facts that it's changed. Hasn't happened.
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16 Nov 2016 08:10

Hope the book gets put out in Englsih - BC/Sky would not like people being reminded of what goes on to win - or even just stay up with everyone else!
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16 Nov 2016 09:06

Robert5091 wrote:Hope the book gets put out in Englsih - BC/Sky would not like people being reminded of what goes on to win - or even just stay up with everyone else!


many books were published since 2010, and Sky, or any other team weren´t too bothered about them (well, yes, Ryder got a winter holiday suspension, and that´s it)
so dont worry
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24 Nov 2016 22:26

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04 Dec 2016 23:19

The Prophecy comes true: One day clean riders will beat dopers' times.

Gaimon attack.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/retired-gaimon-goes-to-work-toppling-doping-tainted-strava-koms/#disqus_thread
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05 Dec 2016 01:58

doperhopper wrote:The Prophecy comes true: One day clean riders will beat dopers' times.

Gaimon attack.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/retired-gaimon-goes-to-work-toppling-doping-tainted-strava-koms/#disqus_thread


The way I interpreted this:
"Let's see how many KOMs I can set before my drug supply runs out and use this sasquatch guys as the villain."
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05 Dec 2016 17:48

doperhopper wrote:The Prophecy comes true: One day clean riders will beat dopers' times.

Gaimon attack.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/retired-gaimon-goes-to-work-toppling-doping-tainted-strava-koms/#disqus_thread

Nice try but beating doped up weekend warriors is not an indication that Gaimon's doping himself, but I think you already knew that...
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17 Dec 2016 23:24

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24 Jan 2017 23:33

Although track and field is talked about the most, I think this goes under 'general doping thread.' It also relates to WADA and the murky TUE system.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/sports-doping-and-the-difficult-fight-to-prevent-it-a-1129918.html
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10 Mar 2017 07:13

American football and doping ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/nfl-abuse-of-painkillers-and-other-drugs-described-in-court-filings/2017/03/09/be1a71d8-035a-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html
The filing likens painkillers to performance-enhancing drugs and says while players often felt compelled to use them to contribute to their teams, medical staffs felt pressured to administer them to remain competitive. A February 2006 memo included in the court filing from the Minnesota Vikings’ head trainer, Eric Sugarman . Writing to then-head coach Brad Childress and the team’s vice president for operations, the trainer said he had met for three hours with team physician David Fischer and lamented the fact the Vikings weren’t regularly using a powerful painkiller called Toradol, as other teams were.

“I expressed my concern that [the Vikings] are at a competitive disadvantage. . . . I feel very strongly about this point,” he wrote. “. . . I feel that Dr. Fischer is beginning to see my point of view on many issues. I also feel he is willing to change to improve.”
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10 Mar 2017 17:39

American Footy and Rugby Union are in another world when it comes to doping - The athletes are so big, frighteningly big - I fear a fatality on the field due to the size and force f the players.
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10 Mar 2017 19:15

yaco wrote:American Footy and Rugby Union are in another world when it comes to doping - The athletes are so big, frighteningly big - I fear a fatality on the field due to the size and force f the players.


I saw a full Rugby Union squad, wearing civvies, walking towards me at a train station in the UK a year or so ago. Jesus Christ! It was like a pack of bulls. Really. Completely ridiculous size. I'd only ever seen them on TV and was a bit shocked.

Just weights and protein shakes kids!
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