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Re: General Doping Thread.

14 Oct 2018 20:12

https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2254828-recordvangst-doping-er-gaan-grote-hoeveelheden-door-dit-land.html

record amount of doping caught in 2017 by the dutch authorities (customs). Not specific to cycling but still. Apparently there's a lot of import through the Netherlands
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Re: General Doping Thread.

14 Oct 2018 21:08

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2254828-recordvangst-doping-er-gaan-grote-hoeveelheden-door-dit-land.html

record amount of doping caught in 2017 by the dutch authorities (customs). Not specific to cycling but still. Apparently there's a lot of import through the Netherlands


I started paying a lot more attention to women's cycling 2 years ago because a girl I've known since we were kids turned pro. It's been fun hearing what her experiences have been.

Why am I mentioning this? A small minority of the stuff she told me does regard drugs - she's never seen use or at least that's what she tells me. However, she's told me there's talk among riders that the benelux is usually where drugs usually make their way into the peloton. She did stress as far as she knows it's just rumours because obviously nobody told her "by the way, I use".

Once she felt close enough to an experienced rider to ask if things are better these days in women's cycling or if it's an uphill battle, the answer was something like "It's not as bad as men's cycling but it's still a lot worse than people think it is". Take it with a grain of salt, of course.
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28 Oct 2018 13:38

At the end of today's Womens Super Prestige Cyclocross
Marianna Vos took off her shades in the finishing straight.
A minute of two later in her TV interview her pupils were very dilated.
Is this suspicious, at all?
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28 Oct 2018 14:06

Dilated pupils are common if you suffer from myopia but aren't wearing your glasses/lenses, and she's pretty much legally blind without glasses.

If you want to question her in that way, I'd start with her association with Ochowicz and Testa
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28 Oct 2018 14:15

TourOfSardinia wrote:At the end of today's Womens Super Prestige Cyclocross
Marianna Vos took off her shades in the finishing straight.
A minute of two later in her TV interview her pupils were very dilated.
Is this suspicious, at all?


No
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09 Nov 2018 11:15

https://www.bbc.com/sport/swimming/46117978
Two-time world champion swimmer Filippo Magnini has been banned for four years by Italy's national anti-doping body.

Magnini, 100m freestyle world gold medallist in 2005 and 2007, also won Olympic 4x200m freestyle relay bronze at Athens in 2004.

The 36-year-old, who retired last year, had not tested positive and strongly denied he was guilty.

"There is no proof, it's a sentence that was already written," Italian news agency Ansa quoted him as saying.

He added: "We will certainly appeal. We're talking about picking on me, forcing the issue."

Anti-doping prosecutors had asked that an eight-year ban for actual or attempted doping be given to Magnini, who is one of Italy's most successful swimmers and once raced against two dolphins.

Magnini's former relay teammate Michele Santucci was also banned for four years, in a case linked to nutritionist Guido Porcellini, who was given a 30-year ban in July for anti-doping violations.


Original news release from NADO Italia http://www.nadoitalia.it/it/home-it/news/archivio-comunicati/12782-prima-sezione-filippo-magnini-tesserato-fin-squalificato-4-anni.html
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09 Nov 2018 21:23

Years ago Magnini's ex Pellegrini slammed Carolina Kostner for being in a relationship with Schwazer and said "I could never be with a doper", oh the irony.
Of course it would have been sooo much better if she was caught, but that would probably mean that that creep Malagò, the president of the CONI (Italian OC) would be on suicide watch because one of his golden girls got busted.
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09 Nov 2018 23:30

But what the heck was "nutritionist" Guido Porcellini giving people to get a 30 year ban?
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15 Nov 2018 22:14

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2018-11/wada-foundation-board-approves-wide-ranging-governance-reform
Bogota Laboratory

The ExCo revoked the accreditation of the Bogotá Laboratory in Colombia, based on the assessment of a Disciplinary Committee due to non-compliance with the International Standard for Laboratories (ISL) and its related Technical Documents. The Laboratory was initially suspended on 20 February 2017. Pursuant to Article 13.7 of the Code, the Laboratory may appeal the decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport within 21 days of its receipt of the decision.
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Re: General Doping Thread.

23 Dec 2018 17:12

SWAPIT | AGOLICO CYCLING PRO TEAM rider Flavia Oliveira has been provisionally suspended by the Brazilian Doping Control Authority.
http://www.ciclismointernacional.com/la-campeona-brasilena-de-ruta-suspendida-por-dopaje/
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23 Dec 2018 17:38

37-year-old mercenary spending the last few years flitting from team to team on a "have race licence, will travel" basis, only registered with UCI for part of the previous season, with a previous suspension from a decade ago. Colour me not particularly surprised.
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Re: General Doping Thread.

23 Dec 2018 23:57

Here we go again:

A trace of the metabolite of oral turinabol, in the size of one-50 millionth of a grain of sand, was discovered in an anti-doping sample given by Jon Jones to USADA on Dec. 9.

Independent experts found that it was not a re-ingestion of a banned substance but rather a residual affect from a prior situation, perhaps as long as 18 months or even longer ago.


In a Dec. 20 statement to Ed Magaw, an assistant attorney general in Nevada, Jeff Cook, the results management and investigations senior director for USADA wrote:

“Upon careful consideration of the very low concentration of the DHCMT long-term metabolite in Mr. Jones’ Sample from December 9, 2018, and taking into account the human pharmacokinetic characteristics of this particular long-term anabolic steroid metabolite based on data to which USADA has access and in consultation with scientific experts, some of whose opinions are enclosed, USADA concluded, consistent with prior residual amounts detected in Mr. Jones’ samples, that the presence of DHMCT long-term metabolite in Mr. Jones’ Sample #1618215 is consistent with residual amounts from exposure prior to July 28, 2017. Stated differently, the presence of the metabolite is not consistent with re-administration of a prohibited substance, and this very low level would not result in any performance enhancement in relation to Mr. Jones’ upcoming bout.”


So Jones tested positive before during that eighteen month period? If so, why was this never made public?

If the metabolite persists that long, why have other athletes taking it not tested positive a year or more after an initial positive test? Or have they?
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24 Dec 2018 05:38

At least USADA is consistent with their 'softness' on positive drug tests - Could this be why Tygart is often in the media criticising other nations, WADA, etc,etc,etc.
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26 Dec 2018 20:05

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/menchov-returns-as-directeur-sportif-with-gazprom-rusvelo/
Menchov, 40, left the sport presumably due to a knee injury in 2013, having won the 2007 Vuelta a España and 2009 Giro d'Italia. But he was retroactively banned in 2014 by the UCI for biological passport violations and was stripped of his podium spot in the 2010 Tour de France, among other results.

He will be joined at Gazprom-RusVelo by Evgeny Petrov, who was ejected from the 2005 Tour de France on stage 10 for too-high hematocrit.


I predict big things in 2019 for Gazprom. :D
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26 Dec 2018 21:54

That's the first I've ever heard of a knee injury justification. At the time he just said he didn't want to talk or give any reasons
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27 Dec 2018 06:47

Robert5091 wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/menchov-returns-as-directeur-sportif-with-gazprom-rusvelo/
Menchov, 40, left the sport presumably due to a knee injury in 2013, having won the 2007 Vuelta a España and 2009 Giro d'Italia. But he was retroactively banned in 2014 by the UCI for biological passport violations and was stripped of his podium spot in the 2010 Tour de France, among other results.

He will be joined at Gazprom-RusVelo by Evgeny Petrov, who was ejected from the 2005 Tour de France on stage 10 for too-high hematocrit.


I predict big things in 2019 for Gazprom. :D

Russia serious about endemic doping culture, yes?
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Re: General Doping Thread.

27 Dec 2018 11:43

Merckx index wrote:Here we go again:

A trace of the metabolite of oral turinabol, in the size of one-50 millionth of a grain of sand, was discovered in an anti-doping sample given by Jon Jones to USADA on Dec. 9.

Independent experts found that it was not a re-ingestion of a banned substance but rather a residual affect from a prior situation, perhaps as long as 18 months or even longer ago.


In a Dec. 20 statement to Ed Magaw, an assistant attorney general in Nevada, Jeff Cook, the results management and investigations senior director for USADA wrote:

“Upon careful consideration of the very low concentration of the DHCMT long-term metabolite in Mr. Jones’ Sample from December 9, 2018, and taking into account the human pharmacokinetic characteristics of this particular long-term anabolic steroid metabolite based on data to which USADA has access and in consultation with scientific experts, some of whose opinions are enclosed, USADA concluded, consistent with prior residual amounts detected in Mr. Jones’ samples, that the presence of DHMCT long-term metabolite in Mr. Jones’ Sample #1618215 is consistent with residual amounts from exposure prior to July 28, 2017. Stated differently, the presence of the metabolite is not consistent with re-administration of a prohibited substance, and this very low level would not result in any performance enhancement in relation to Mr. Jones’ upcoming bout.”


So Jones tested positive before during that eighteen month period? If so, why was this never made public?

If the metabolite persists that long, why have other athletes taking it not tested positive a year or more after an initial positive test? Or have they?


Turinabol is old school isn't it?
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Re:

27 Dec 2018 12:17

GuyIncognito wrote:That's the first I've ever heard of a knee injury justification. At the time he just said he didn't want to talk or give any reasons


Not true. He did indeed note a persistent knee injury as the reason of his retirement, back in May 2013, you can check the news.

Then it was the year later when the news of his ban came up, if i'm not mistaken (not sure if it was summer 2013 or 2014), and he said he would not enter in any legal battle as it did not make any sense.
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05 Jan 2019 13:33

90 year old busted!
https://www.usada.org/carl-grove-accepts-public-warning/
USADA announced today that Carl Grove, of Bristol, Ind., an athlete in the sport of cycling, has accepted a public warning for his anti-doping rule violations.

Grove, 90, tested positive for epitrenbolone, which is a metabolite of the prohibited substance trenbolone, as the result of an in-competition urine sample he provided on July 11, 2018 after setting a world record at the Masters Track National Championships. While investigating the source of his positive test, it was also determined that a supplement Grove was using prior to July 11, 2018 was contaminated with clomiphene.

During USADA’s investigation into the circumstances of his case, Grove provided USADA with information which established that the source of his positive test was more likely than not caused by contaminated meat consumed the evening before competing on July 11, 2018. Prior to consuming the meat, Grove had tested negative for prohibited substances during an in-competition test on July 10, 2018.

Before disclosing his consumption of meat on the evening prior to submitting his July 11 sample, Grove provided USADA with information about supplements he had used, none of which listed clomiphene or any other prohibited substances on the Supplement Facts label. Detailed analysis subsequently conducted on the supplement by the WADA-accredited laboratory in Salt Lake City, Utah, confirmed the presence of clomiphene in one of the supplements.
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