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24 Mar 2012 22:28

Benotti69 wrote:Jim Stynes a true human. Armstrong not fit to stand in his shadow.


indeed, i got a little emo during the minute silence for jim yesterday at the sydney/gws game :(
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28 Mar 2012 19:50

HPC: On a different topic, there were rumours that you were thinking of running for political office, but you've refuted that. Why?

LA: Our job is to represent that community [of people with cancer]. And at the same time, we have to ask politicians for certain things, whether it’s funding or whether it’s to be a volunteer at an event. Politics are personal, so as soon as somebody picks a side, people get upset about that.

The other part is just the nasty nature of that world and the way that the media -- not to fault them, but the way that it’s just so hard on these people running for office. I mean,I could never put my kids through it. Even just having their dad being me and whatever’s gone on the last 20 years as an athlete … their world is different. You go into politics and it’s ruthless.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/29/lance-armstrong-2012_n_1262237.html
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28 Mar 2012 21:20

thehog wrote:You go into politics and ... my $h!t really hits the fan. .

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/29/lance-armstrong-2012_n_1262237.html


Opposition research would have a field day on that guy. The strip clubs would provide enough fodder to end the campaign.
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29 Mar 2012 03:00

DirtyWorks wrote:Opposition research would have a field day on that guy. The strip clubs would provide enough fodder to end the campaign.


that and the bank gift to Planned Parenthood. both kick a$$ imho
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29 Mar 2012 07:25

Boeing wrote:that and the bank gift to Planned Parenthood. both kick a$$ imho


Will this turn into a sue-me frenzy? Who (with money) doesn't want to be sued by Lance? A nice amount of evidence was collected for your case, which-ever it concerns. Doping allegations, corruption, fake charity, oh the list goes on!
If I were rich, I'd make a hobby out of publically mocking him, begging to be sued. That would be a humane and pro-truth thing to do.
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29 Mar 2012 15:30

DirtyWorks wrote:Opposition research would have a field day on that guy. The strip clubs would provide enough fodder to end the campaign.



perhaps it would be refreshing if he launched a career in politics as a conservative and stepped up to the podium and announced all his transgressions and supported women's rights at the same time.
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29 Mar 2012 15:33

DirtyWorks wrote:Opposition research would have a field day on that guy. The strip clubs would provide enough fodder to end the campaign.


Yes, going to strip clubs surely makes you incapable of being a politician. :rolleyes:

PS: I'm not criticizing your point....I am agreeing with it. The fact that people base their vote upon something like this says everything you need to know about how things are so ****ed up.
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29 Mar 2012 20:57

Testing the bounds of reality.
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30 Mar 2012 01:24

ChrisE wrote:Yes, going to strip clubs surely makes you incapable of being a politician. :rolleyes:

PS: I'm not criticizing your point....I am agreeing with it. The fact that people base their vote upon something like this says everything you need to know about how things are so ****ed up.


I think he's not keen on someone in government cracking open the old case file and having it leaked.... best not give someone the reason to do so...... hanging out with strippers won't be a big deal but shifting bucket loads of drugs around the world would probably have him lose a few votes :rolleyes:
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30 Mar 2012 02:52

thehog wrote:I think he's not keen on someone in government cracking open the old case file and having it leaked.... best not give someone the reason to do so...... hanging out with strippers won't be a big deal but shifting bucket loads of drugs around the world would probably have him lose a few votes :rolleyes:


Best not to use the word leak. In case you haven't heard, leaks had no part in the investigation being ended. ;)

And there will be no leaks about the investigation. But there may be leaks about the leaks.

"Cracking open the old case file"? - Sergeant Friday retired a while ago.
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30 Mar 2012 03:10

Cal_Joe wrote:Best not to use the word leak. In case you haven't heard, leaks had no part in the investigation being ended. ;)

And there will be no leaks about the investigation. But there may be leaks about the leaks.

"Cracking open the old case file"? - Sergeant Friday retired a while ago.
Surprised (actually not) that you would make stuff up about USA judicial proceedings. Unless of course you are a lawyer in the USA with experience in these matters. If you do have that experience, I apologise in advance.


I think you missed the point by a long way.

Politics is a tough game in the US. When politicians run for office all sorts of things come out into the wild. It's par for the course.

I think Lance knows there's always been dirt out there on him. But now the difference is that there are documents from the investigation stored away.

Those things have a habit of "appearing" when one excels in the polls or presents themselves as something they're clearly not.

I'm not talking about investigation leaks I'm talking dirty politics and those who would find this stuff and let it seep out into the wild.

I respect him for no longer wanting to enter into politics. With a past like his he'd be setting himself up for an almighty battle. A point he acknowledged in my link.

You're always so quick to jump on me - why? Is it what I say or just me you don't like?
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30 Mar 2012 03:14

DirtyWorks wrote:Opposition research would have a field day on that guy. The strip clubs would provide enough fodder to end the campaign.


Yeah President Bill Clinton seemed to not have any trouble. :D
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30 Mar 2012 03:28

Glenn_Wilson wrote:Yeah President Bill Clinton seemed to not have any trouble. :D


Do you think Lance could have used the "..I never inhaled" line?

By that at the very least he'd be asked questions about his drug use. I don't think SCA trial like responses of "...I don't recall" would cut it on that stage.

Besides once Tyler's, Floyds and David Walsh's new book hits the stands there will be plenty of fodder for journalists and opposing politiians to get excited about.

I don't think he'd be eaten alive as he's a touch character but there would be so much distraction from all the stories true or not he'd never stand a chance.
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30 Mar 2012 04:05

thehog wrote:Do you think Lance could have used the "..I never inhaled" line?

By that at the very least he'd be asked questions about his drug use. I don't think SCA trial like responses of "...I don't recall" would cut it on that stage.

Besides once Tyler's, Floyds and David Walsh's new book hits the stands there will be plenty of fodder for journalists and opposing politiians to get excited about.

I don't think he'd be eaten alive as he's a touch character but there would be so much distraction from all the stories true or not he'd never stand a chance.


I CAN'T wait for this book by Floyd.
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30 Mar 2012 04:09

thehog wrote:I think you missed the point by a long way.... [and other hog babble]


Just let me know when sealed GJ testimony is used in an election contest.

You need to stop making stuff up and stop confusing your wish list with the real world - hopefully that answers your last clueless question.
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30 Mar 2012 12:08

Cal_Joe wrote:Just let me know when sealed GJ testimony is used in an election contest.

You need to stop making stuff up and stop confusing your wish list with the real world - hopefully that answers your last clueless question.


You said anything about sealed GJ testimony? now who's making stuff up?

I was mealy agreeing with Lance Armstrongs comments on why he no longer wants to enter politics. You don't agree with him?

It rather pointless arguing with you because your playing the man not the ball.

The funny thing is the more you you go after me the stupider you look. You've been doing it for sometime now.

I know I get on your nerves. It's ok. I'm not the enemy.

Sometime ago I asked you to take a journey. A journey with the truth. I think you might need to go back there again and find out what makes you so angry in relation to this subject. So defensive. I think it might give you a good insight into who YOU really are. Self discovery is important.
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30 Mar 2012 17:41

scribe wrote:I CAN'T wait for this book by Floyd.


I can't see myself laying out money for a "Floyd" book when I've already laid-out money for a Floyd book once before.
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30 Mar 2012 20:14

thehog wrote:The funny thing is the more you you go after me the stupider you look. You've been doing it for sometime now.
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Part of the problem is this lame thread. It has died multiple times only to be "bumped up" by you with a trollish "update". Your latest trollish bump is one of many other trollish bumps you have so trollishly bumped in this thread's troll laden past. Let this one go Hog. Let it go. Its lame.
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30 Mar 2012 22:06

Anyone got a link to that whitehouse petition? I had forgotten all about that one while I was banned.
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30 Mar 2012 22:28

Polish wrote:Part of the problem is this lame thread. It has died multiple times only to be "bumped up" by you with a trollish "update". Your latest trollish bump is one of many other trollish bumps you have so trollishly bumped in this thread's troll laden past. Let this one go Hog. Let it go. Its lame.


Seeing the regulation Lance thread has been closed this is my only option to post updates.

Besides my threads have staying power. Unlike Lance with one ball I can last.

Check out the BMC in disarray thread. It has a life of its own.
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