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Is Philippe Gilbert Doping?

20 Apr 2011 14:32

The guy beats the best riders in the world, known dopers, flies out from being a good rider to the best in the world suddenly at age of 28.

Is the tide turning or are these just more too good to be true performances?

But since Cancellara gets murdered on this forum for being to good, no matter how much you like Gilbert and hate Canc, he deserves this thread too.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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Heh

20 Apr 2011 14:33

Once again, Philippe Gilbert is one of the riders managed by McQuaid's son.
More protected than this, there's nothing in the world.

Wake up....
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20 Apr 2011 14:33

Tour de France win next.

Nothing is impossible...
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20 Apr 2011 14:34

The Hitch wrote:The guy beats the best riders in the world, known dopers, flies out from being a good rider to the best in the world suddenly at age of 28.

I wouldnt start this if his fanboys didnt get on other peoples backs for doping.

But since they do, well, do you seriously believe he is clean?


that's quick. lol

no he isnt clean. however he earned my respect. a champion.

still not at canc's level :)

but a great win hitch. if he isnt using cera and sh+t like that, i dont care.
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20 Apr 2011 14:37

I hope he is but I'm not naive enough to believe he is.
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20 Apr 2011 14:37

Think Gilbert is fantastic and what a kick to win but I have to agree...it doesnt look good, he seems to be 'unbelievable'!!

He was pretty much taunting the rest when he was going over the line.. haha :p
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20 Apr 2011 14:38

greatking88 wrote:Think Gilbert is fantastic and what a kick to win but I have to agree...it doesnt look good, he seems to be 'unbelievable'!!

He was pretty much taunting the rest when he was going over the line.. haha :p


just like ricco at the tour...
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20 Apr 2011 14:39

End this tread
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20 Apr 2011 14:39

The Hitch wrote:The guy beats the best riders in the world, known dopers, flies out from being a good rider to the best in the world suddenly at age of 28.

I wouldnt start this if his fanboys didnt get on other peoples backs for doping.

But since they do, well, do you seriously believe he is clean?


Why do you find it surprising to see a rider come to form at 28?
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20 Apr 2011 14:41

Fester wrote:Why do you find it surprising to see a rider come to form at 28?


suprising is being good until 27 and then kill them all.
almost out of nowhere

just like armstrong lol
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20 Apr 2011 14:42

superconfex wrote:End this tread


Look, if you don't like such threads, stay out of the clinic, people here are free to discuss whether any rider dopes, not just those riders that people don't like. If you do not agree with the opinion that he dopes, provide arguments for your position, or adress the arguments put forth by those that say he does use doping.
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20 Apr 2011 14:43

superconfex wrote:End this tread


What? I don't understand. Thanks.
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20 Apr 2011 14:44

Gilbert is the best in the world at ONE thing: accelerating on a slope. That is not a skill which is augmented greatly by oxygen vector doping, which is the most prevalent and effective technique currently in use.
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20 Apr 2011 14:44

The Hitch wrote:But since they do, well, do you seriously believe he is clean?


No, I don't. But until he's caught I prefer to ignore the topic.
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20 Apr 2011 14:45

There's nothing sudden about Gilbert, he's been steadily building up ever since he turned pro. His current level is hard to believe, but there's really not much info against him right now, so it all comes down to how much of a cynic everyone is.
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20 Apr 2011 14:46

I suppose it might be the time to point out that since there was a 200 + post thread about Cancellara doping, I am perfectly entitled to make the same thread about Gilbert.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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20 Apr 2011 14:46

Jamsque wrote:Gilbert is the best in the world at ONE thing: accelerating on a slope. That is not a skill which is augmented greatly by oxygen vector doping, which is the most prevalent and effective technique currently in use.


Yes, except that that everybody needs to ride 200.6 km to get there.
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20 Apr 2011 14:47

greatking88 wrote:He was pretty much taunting the rest when he was going over the line.. haha :p


Actually I had the impression he thought he was over the line earlier than the actual line. I really didn't interpret that as taunting.
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20 Apr 2011 14:47

I became suspicious last year after the gold race, but what he showed today is just disgusting. Last time I saw someone flew up the mur like that was Jalabert in 1995.
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20 Apr 2011 14:51

Based on the "type" of wins we're seeing, it reminds me of Thor at the World Championships, except much steeper finishes: Good positioning, with one very well-timed, powerful kick to finish everyone off.

Until I see a different "type" of win, I'll accept that he's a ferocious competitor whose maximizing his strengths at an age that makes perfect sense for his achievements.
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