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17 Jan 2014 14:23

I was dirty but only once..............Is this the best they can do ?
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17 Jan 2014 16:48

Proves my point about the culture of doping not changed.

Wrist bands what a joke!
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17 Jan 2014 17:23

Benotti69 wrote:Proves my point about the culture of doping not changed.

Wrist bands what a joke!
Haha. Not that I would ever argue, that the culture have changed. But to say that a wrist band proves your point, that's probably going to far:p
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17 Jan 2014 17:25

Jordbaer wrote:I'm clean(er)!
Yeah, that's for everybody but Froome:)
“To compare me with Lance, I mean, Lance cheated. I’m not cheating. End of story.”

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21 Oct 2015 19:24

MPCC say that teams that have to bench a rider before the start of a Grand Tour for low cortisol levels can now call in a substitute:

As requested by MPCC, the Professional Cycling Council (CCP) decided to allow a team to replace a rider in the case of force majeure, including that of an abnormally low cortisol level at the start on a grand tour.


MPCC sows confusion over tramodol, which MPCC members agreed not to use a few years back and which has been on the WADA monitored list for several years and will continue to be monitored in 2016:

Moreover tramadol will be added to the list of substances prohibited in competition from January1, 2016. This was a long standing request by MPCC to WADA.


And MPCC pats itself on the back over UCI adopting team suspension rules even though UCI rules are quite differnet to MPCC's:

MPCC also welcomed the fact that the UCI considers the movement as reflective of the majority of professionnal teams by adopting in its rules the principle of self-suspension which is applied by MPCC members since its very inception.


Link: http://www.mpcc.fr/index.php/en/news-uk/item/471-10-20-press-release
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21 Oct 2015 20:32

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Re: Movement for credible cycling!!

20 Jul 2016 07:23

Our Dutch posters might translate it better and in more detail.

Tramadol still been used significantly in the peloton.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/tour-2016/26249928/__Tramadol_weer_op_agenda__.html?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=facebook
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20 Jul 2016 08:02

It states that in 5.4% of every sample taken form cyclists traces of tramadol are found. Reference is also made to the claim by Michael Barry that tramadol use was rampant at Sky. It also states that use is still abundant in anglo-saxon teams apparently. 50% of the tramdol found in doping samples can be attributed to cyclists.
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20 Jul 2016 10:56

"Tramadol back on the menu".
Great. Makes me wonder who's behind this sample research and subsequent press releases?
It sounds like cheap antidoping PR, deflections away from a much grimmer reality.
What about "HGH, EPO, steroids, blood transfusions and AICAR back on the menu"?
Is anybody checking those samples for that?
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Re: Movement for credible cycling!!

20 Jul 2016 13:29

gooner wrote:Our Dutch posters might translate it better and in more detail.

Tramadol still been used significantly in the peloton.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/tour-2016/26249928/__Tramadol_weer_op_agenda__.html?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=facebook


Might explain how Kristoff couldn't properly see finish line
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20 Jul 2016 13:57

Meh, leave the credible cycling to the amateurs.
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MPCC

18 Oct 2016 15:57

I has to scroll to 4th or 5th page to find the thread. looks like MPCC is not very interesting, nor for the clinic nor for the teams :D

https://twitter.com/RiksRedGuard/status/788376361043894273

Does any one really think that Mouvement Pour un Cyclisme Crédible will help clean up the sport? Just asking for a friend. #cycling #MPCC
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18 Oct 2016 15:59

Cheers for that bump very interesting and worthwhile for sure.
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19 Oct 2016 13:28

There is clean cycling; I'm sure lower levels of amateur cycling are almost 100% clean and there are a lot of clean riders even up to the higher levels of amateur cycling.

I'll even go as far as to say that there might actually be a few clean riders in the lower levels of pro cycling.

Beyond that, however...
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19 Oct 2016 13:29

Or alternatively, we can start rooting for Tejay van Garderen - dude performed like a clean cyclist this year.
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19 Oct 2016 13:46

Sky wasn't in it because Brailsford follows The Movement for Incredible Cycling.
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19 Oct 2016 14:09

Rollthedice wrote:Sky wasn't in it because Brailsford follows The Movement for Incredible Cycling.


Well, that's a point that both Sky fans and Sky detractors can agree with.
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20 Oct 2016 07:07

Sky's failure to sign up for MPCC is telling in itself. The reasons for not doing so is that they are supposedly adhering to their own higher ethical standards. However since we know that there are massive discrepancies between what they practice and what they preach. Basically we are just meant to trust them at their word. I don't think even the most ardent sky fan can claim that level of trust in them anymore. Given the lies, the lack of transparency and the failure to control the message (that's the one thing they have done well up until 5 weeks ago) surely they should be taking steps to restore their credibility if they were in favour of clean cycling. Dismissing MPCC in the manner they have done just adds to the suspicion that PEDs are being abused within the team.
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Re: Movement for credible cycling!!

20 Jan 2018 22:03

Bardiani, who got a Giro wild card, re-joined the MPCC few weeks ago

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from Vayer´s twitter
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Re: Movement for credible cycling!!

21 Jan 2018 01:30

pastronef wrote:Bardiani, who got a Giro wild card, re-joined the MPCC few weeks ago

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from Vayer´s twitter


http://www.mpcc.fr/index.php/en/news-uk/item/633-bardiani-csf-probationary-member-of-the-mpcc


has been accepted on probation
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