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20 Jul 2014 18:30

Afrank wrote:You mean Friday, he collapsed on stage 13's chamrousse. Which was only the 2nd big mountain stage.

Don't know why they didn't do sky train on any stage before this stage. Maybe there just hasn't been a need for it, maybe Porte's not good enough to handle it like Froome or Wiggins, maybe there is something wrong with them (in whatever sense, clinic or not clinic, you think). I don't really know except that since Porte fell out of contention they haven't had any reason to ride at the front.

But it seems this season the entire Sky team have been pretty crap more then a few times. Questioning this is probably something that should be done.


To be honest it was all guns blazing from the start of the year.

Then from from March. Mass pull outs, getting sick, Heano, bad back, Dawg TUEs etc.

Now what was the trigger point at that time? :rolleyes:
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21 Jul 2014 01:38

maxmartin wrote:chest infection, it seems it is going around in the Sky bus. Side effect from long term doping?

Wow... Maybe Zorzoli can't provide express TUE's anymore?
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21 Jul 2014 09:47

the sceptic wrote:Whats plan D?

Nieve also seems like a shadow of his euskaltel self. How is that possible?

Sky appear to be scared to dope at the moment.


Maybe the UCI told them the party was over, Zorzoli can't fly solo anymore? The wheels have fallen off the wagon. Even if Dawg was still in who would do the climbs for him? Only G.
Wiggo must be loving this Tour.
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21 Jul 2014 17:53

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-team-sky-will-learn-from-the-problems-of-the-2014-tour-de-france

Brailsford on Froome today:

"He's certainly one of our best riders,"

What does this mean :confused:

One of the best...??

Surely this is an insult to Froome?
Can't imagine how the same sentence would play out if it was Vino on Nibali
or Riis on Contador...

Maybe preparing for the time when he's no longer there, or maybe they already have the next guy ready for next year....

I would not feel too comfortable if I was Froome...
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21 Jul 2014 18:49

rainman wrote:Maybe the UCI told them the party was over, Zorzoli can't fly solo anymore? The wheels have fallen off the wagon. Even if Dawg was still in who would do the climbs for him? Only G.
Wiggo must be loving this Tour.


Nieve and Lopez can be rather useful you know.
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21 Jul 2014 18:51

mrhender wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-team-sky-will-learn-from-the-problems-of-the-2014-tour-de-france

Brailsford on Froome today:

"He's certainly one of our best riders,"

What does this mean :confused:

One of the best...??

Surely this is an insult to Froome?
Can't imagine how the same sentence would play out if it was Vino on Nibali
or Riis on Contador...

Maybe preparing for the time when he's no longer there, or maybe they already have the next guy ready for next year....

I would not feel too comfortable if I was Froome...


I doubt it, without the dawg who's going to be their GC challenger ?
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21 Jul 2014 19:03

bigcog wrote:I doubt it, without the dawg who's going to be their GC challenger ?


SKY has proven to be unpredictable in this matter..
Who was talking of Froome in 2010 when Wiggins was their GC-guy to be?

Furthermore transfer window is not even open yet (oficially of course)
Rumours of Pinot goinng to SKY and DB publicly said that his next aim was for a frenchman to win the Tour...
This was of course before things went wrong for SKY in the Tour..
Now he seems to be less bombastic in his comments....
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21 Jul 2014 19:04

Froome is their best rider by an incredible margin. No one comes even close.

Looks like Dawg and Sir Dave aren't best mates.
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21 Jul 2014 19:10

mrhender wrote:SKY has proven to be unpredictable in this matter..
Who was talking of Froome in 2010 when Wiggins was their GC-guy to be?

Furthermore transfer window is not even open yet (oficially of course)
Rumours of Pinot goinng to SKY and DB publicly said that his next aim was for a frenchman to win the Tour...
This was of course before things went wrong for SKY in the Tour..
Now he seems to be less bombastic in his comments....

remy di gregorio was on skys radar about 6 years back when they were putting together their program. that was a year after RdG had a breakout Dauphine.

Libertine Seguros' memory is better than mine since i gave up following the sport in around 2008
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21 Jul 2014 19:19

SeriousSam wrote:Froome is their best rider by an incredible margin. No one comes even close.

Looks like Dawg and Sir Dave aren't best mates.


I doubt the dawg's book helped ...
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21 Jul 2014 19:33

SeriousSam wrote:Froome is their best rider by an incredible margin. No one comes even close.

Looks like Dawg and Sir Dave aren't best mates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
Where is the love :p

Seriously...
No team spirit at all in this team..
Just have a look at Tinkoff-Saxo...

-AC apologising to his team-mates after his DNF (riding up a mountain with a broken leg)
-Rogers telling him that he'd done nothing but make them proud (and crying in interwiev after stage)
-Maj-cat dedicating his win to AC
-Pictures of Riis and Tinkoff looking like secret lovers
-Tinkoff crying of joy after stage win...
Etc...etc..

And at the same time we have Brailsford saying the acid test will be how they will learn from this tour and at the same time calling Froome "one" of the best in his team... :eek:

Seriously this post should be in the "inept" thread but got carried away.. :p
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21 Jul 2014 19:36

blackcat wrote:remi di gregorio was on skys radar about 6 years back when they were putting together their program. that was a year after RdG had a breakout Dauphine.

Libertine Seguros' memory is better than mine since i gave up following the sport in around 2008


Ahh yes... I remember there was a lot of hype about him...

And yes, I have noted he is quite the man to go to in these matters, pretty impressive i think :)
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21 Jul 2014 19:39

mrhender wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
Where is the love :p

Seriously...
No team spirit at all in this team..
Just have a look at Tinkoff-Saxo...

-AC apologising to his team-mates after his DNF (riding up a mountain with a broken leg)
-Rogers telling him that he'd done nothing but make them proud (and cruing in interwiev after stage)
-Maj-cat dedicating his win to AC
-Pictures of Riis and Tinkoff looking like secret lovers
-Tinkoff crying of joy after stage win...

And at the same time we have Brailsford saying the acid test will be how they will learn from this tour and at the same time calling Froome "one" of the best in his team... :eek:

Seriously this post should be in the "inept" thread but got carried away.. :p


Like the final scene in Jerry Maguire. Brailsford is Jay Mohr and doesn't know how to hug his stars.

Tinkoff does...

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21 Jul 2014 19:48

thehog wrote:Like the final scene in Jerry Maguire. Brailsford is Jay Mohr and doesn't know how to hug his stars.

Tinkoff does...

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Never get to close.. (you might get infected) -Seems to be the DB-logic :D

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21 Jul 2014 20:06

mrhender wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-team-sky-will-learn-from-the-problems-of-the-2014-tour-de-france

Brailsford on Froome today:

"He's certainly one of our best riders,"

What does this mean :confused:


Well he goes on to clarify that for us.
he's won the Tour de France before...


Ya' know. Just in case we forgot about...last year. :rolleyes:

One would think that such a thing might fall under the category of: "goes without saying." But hey, this once-in-a-generation, "crazy adaptive physiology" talent of theirs is just part of the Sky stable.

"One of." That is precious.
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21 Jul 2014 20:18

Granville57 wrote:Well he goes on to clarify that for us.


Ya' know. Just in case we forgot about...last year. :rolleyes:

One would think that such a thing might fall under the category of: "goes without saying." But hey, this once-in-a-generation, "crazy adaptive physiology" talent of theirs is just part of the Sky stable.

"One of." That is precious.


Well... I for one am still laughing :D

What will we do when this theatre comes to an end..
They are highly entertaining in this team for sure...
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21 Jul 2014 20:26

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Is Tinkoff clean? Impressive guns, I'm guessing steroids.

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Sir Dave was clean in his pre-AICAR days.
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21 Jul 2014 23:26

mrhender wrote:Ahh yes... I remember there was a lot of hype about him...

And yes, I have noted he is quite the man to go to in these matters, pretty impressive i think :)

LS may be of the fairer sex.
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21 Jul 2014 23:30

blackcat wrote:LS may be of the fairer sex.


Ohh.. No pun intended.. LS can be whatever he/she likes..
Gender doesn't mean a thing to me..
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21 Jul 2014 23:43

blackcat wrote:LS may be of the fairer sex.

Who cares?
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