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24 May 2013 02:06

maltiv wrote:Sastre followed up his TDF win by first podiuming at the Vuelta and then finishing 3rd + 2 stage wins at the Giro...:rolleyes:


Did he retire? Yes/No? Did he even get offered a contract post Cervelo Test Demise?
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24 May 2013 02:09

ElChingon wrote:Did he retire? Yes/No? Did he even get offered a contract post Cervelo Test Demise?
Don't know if this is some kind of a joke, but anyway, Sastre went to Geox after Cervelo.
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24 May 2013 05:01

Samson777 wrote:Don't know if this is some kind of a joke, but anyway, Sastre went to Geox after Cervelo.


Exxxaactly.
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24 May 2013 05:20

maltiv wrote:Sastre followed up his TDF win by first podiuming at the Vuelta and then finishing 3rd + 2 stage wins at the Giro...:rolleyes:


Sastre's finish in the Giro was due to a 50+ man break. He knocked himself out of contention during the first part of the race. After that last hurrah, nothing.
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24 May 2013 07:13

About BMC, I really love Dottore Ferrari's allusions on 53x12.com

"GILBERT: the world champion flunked his spring campaign, showing obvious limitations even at the distance, confirming the under-performances of 2012 (world championships apart), very different from those of previous years: an "involution" common with other leaders of the [color="Red"]BMC [/color]team, such as Evans and Hushovd"

"involution" : does he clearly mean they stepped their program down ???
What does he know about them ? A lot, IMHO...

link to the article

Others interesting stuffs about Wiggins, Porte, even though I haven't got the key to decode everything (as Wiggins "focusing on [color="Red"]"special"[/color] training for the Giro"... what can he mean as "special"... Ferrari knows so well why training in Teneriffe is great...)
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24 May 2013 07:48

Gregga wrote:About BMC, I really love Dottore Ferrari's allusions on 53x12.com

"GILBERT: the world champion flunked his spring campaign, showing obvious limitations even at the distance, confirming the under-performances of 2012 (world championships apart), very different from those of previous years: an "involution" common with other leaders of the [color="Red"]BMC [/color]team, such as Evans and Hushovd"

"involution" : does he clearly mean they stepped their program down ???
What does he know about them ? A lot, IMHO...

link to the article

Others interesting stuffs about Wiggins, Porte, even though I haven't got the key to decode everything (as Wiggins "focusing on [color="Red"]"special"[/color] training for the Giro"... what can he mean as "special"... Ferrari knows so well why training in Teneriffe is great...)

With Porte, we have three important contenders for major stage races all within Team Sky: too many maybe?


And Rigoberto Uran...

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24 May 2013 08:01

BroDeal wrote:Sastre's finish in the Giro was due to a 50+ man break. He knocked himself out of contention during the first part of the race. After that last hurrah, nothing.

Maltiv is talking about '09 Giro.

The big break was in '10...
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24 May 2013 08:08

BroDeal wrote:Sastre's finish in the Giro was due to a 50+ man break. He knocked himself out of contention during the first part of the race. After that last hurrah, nothing.


Get a grip man. Sastre was great in -09. Break was in 2010.
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24 May 2013 08:38

Netserk wrote:Maltiv is talking about '09 Giro.

The big break was in '10...


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16 Jun 2015 13:26

This stinks!!

Gilbert on Sunday: “[BMC] don’t show me confidence. I am fresh after Giro, I climbed better than ever.”

BMC today: “Gilbert’s leg is broken"

Anyone else think GIlbert had a positive and has been sent home for being a naughty boy????
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16 Jun 2015 14:12

Benotti69 wrote:This stinks!!

Gilbert on Sunday: “[BMC] don’t show me confidence. I am fresh after Giro, I climbed better than ever.”

BMC today: “Gilbert’s leg is broken"

Anyone else think GIlbert had a positive and has been sent home for being a naughty boy????


I think Gilbert wants to ride the tour but he also wants to be a free agent and ride for himself. BMC wants to put all their eggs in one basket (Read TJVG)
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16 Jun 2015 16:33

Benotti69 wrote:This stinks!!

Gilbert on Sunday: “[BMC] don’t show me confidence. I am fresh after Giro, I climbed better than ever.”

BMC today: “Gilbert’s leg is broken"

Anyone else think GIlbert had a positive and has been sent home for being a naughty boy????

Just thought the same thing!
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16 Jun 2015 16:47

Benotti69 wrote:This stinks!!

Gilbert on Sunday: “[BMC] don’t show me confidence. I am fresh after Giro, I climbed better than ever.”

BMC today: “Gilbert’s leg is broken"

Anyone else think GIlbert had a positive and has been sent home for being a naughty boy????


Sent home by who? According to you the teams and authorities are complicit in letting riders dope. Why then would they punish someone for doing it?
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16 Jun 2015 18:34

WildspokeJoe wrote:
I think Gilbert wants to ride the tour but he also wants to be a free agent and ride for himself. BMC wants to put all their eggs in one basket (Read TJVG)


Yep, Gilbert is not exactly a workhorse.
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16 Jun 2015 18:46

Good grief!?

Of course, I was motivated for the Tour because it is going to pass in a part of Belgium and there is also the nice finish on the Mur de Huy. But the Tour de France is every year. It is not like I am missing something like the Olympic Games. So every year you have a chance to do it and I have already done it a few times and have had a lot of success at this race already.


Missing the Tour (big $$$$) is ok.
Missing the Olypic games (no money) is not.

:confused:

For real?
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16 Jun 2015 18:47

So Gilbert publicly complains about BMC and the next piece of news that he's suffered a broken leg. Very interesting.
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16 Jun 2015 19:01

Dear Wiggo wrote:Missing the Tour (big $$$$) is ok.
Missing the Olypic games (no money) is not.

:confused:

For real?


Olympics gives a much bigger chance to get endorsements outside of cycling. A gold medal would be worth millions.

One TdF isn't going to change much. He's already on a huge contract, full slate of sponsors.
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16 Jun 2015 19:04

IzzyStradlin wrote:
Dear Wiggo wrote:Missing the Tour (big $$$$) is ok.
Missing the Olypic games (no money) is not.

:confused:

For real?


Olympics gives a much bigger chance to get endorsements outside of cycling. A gold medal would be worth millions.

One TdF isn't going to change much. He's already on a huge contract, full slate of sponsors.


How come Wiggo didn't get millions? Is that only for road racing gold medals?

In fact, I don't know any Olympic gold medaling cyclist who are millionaires due to Olympic endorsements. Can you help me out there?
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16 Jun 2015 19:06

When is his contract up anyway? He'd be a good fit at Katusha. They have the get out of jail free card.
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16 Jun 2015 19:10

Gregga wrote:About BMC, I really love Dottore Ferrari's allusions on 53x12.com

"GILBERT: the world champion flunked his spring campaign, showing obvious limitations even at the distance, confirming the under-performances of 2012 (world championships apart), very different from those of previous years: an "involution" common with other leaders of the [color="Red"]BMC [/color]team, such as Evans and Hushovd"

"involution" : does he clearly mean they stepped their program down ???
What does he know about them ? A lot, IMHO...

link to the article

Others interesting stuffs about Wiggins, Porte, even though I haven't got the key to decode everything (as Wiggins "focusing on [color="Red"]"special"[/color] training for the Giro"... what can he mean as "special"... Ferrari knows so well why training in Teneriffe is great...)


Evans had an age when he started to get down, something very different to Gilbert... but we talk of the transitional era still in 2011.

Ferrari, if someone read Hamilton book, was a training doctor, not a doper, he make clearly the difference between that. There were people that doped with the training programs of Ferrari, but that doesnt mean everybody that went to Ferrari doped. Other doctors as Fuentes were just dopers.

The important with Evans, and I agree, is this:

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/article/2015/01/22/lemond-doping-era-denied-evans-his-best-years
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