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Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

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Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

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YES
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NO
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Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

01 Jun 2012 10:12

Will Alberto Contador be back to his old doping habits when He returns to the Peloton.
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01 Jun 2012 10:32

Certainly. To a lesser extent though. Unlike Basso, he considers himself guilty by no means. Moreover, he thinks the system was not entitled to hurt him, the dear one. I expect him to become weaker at TT basically. A climber edge is still huge, but we'll never see something like Verbier or Etna in the Tour at least. It is still possible in the Vuelta.
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01 Jun 2012 10:37

I voted NO but that doesn't mean I think he won't dope again. I think he'll still not dope.
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01 Jun 2012 10:59

LaFlorecita wrote:I voted NO but that doesn't mean I think he won't dope again. I think he'll still not dope.


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01 Jun 2012 11:04

I don't know why he'd dope, as you can now win GTs clean.
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01 Jun 2012 11:06

ChewbaccaD wrote:Sadly, there is no Santa Clause. Hate to have to break that bad news to you too.


Are you comparing Alberto to Santa Claus? :confused:
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01 Jun 2012 11:16

One more adverse analytical finding and he is looking at the possibility of a life ban.

He would be a fool to risk it, but I do see it happening.
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01 Jun 2012 11:20

Stravoski wrote:Will Alberto Contador be back to his old doping habits when He returns to the Peloton.


And just what were his "old doping habits" exactly?

00.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000005% of clenbutarol-whatever.
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01 Jun 2012 11:20

Catwhoorg wrote:One more adverse analytical finding and he is looking at the possibility of a life ban.

He would be a fool to risk it, but I do see it happening.

Well, he might trim his program down to the essentials (transfusions, microdosed EPO, HGH and little else), which is the hard stuff to find in a test. He was caught by a fluke after all.

Plenty of people have kept risking it even after being caught once, although many of them probably wouldn't have had much of a career clean. But then again, Contador might not be content with coming back at a merely "good" or "decent" level. That in itself would speak volumes about his past doping, after all.
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01 Jun 2012 11:23

gooner wrote:The performance of Hesjedal in the Giro and the performances of Wiggins in P-N and Romandie shows everyone once and for all races can be won clean. That is the big plus of this season so far if you ask me.

Long may it continue.

Why? Why should we assume they are clean? Especially Wiggins.
edit: wait, maybe you're being sarcastic? I hope you are.
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01 Jun 2012 11:40

I don't think he'll do it much different than from the Giro last year. He knew he absolutely couldn't risk a +, but still crushed everyone.
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01 Jun 2012 11:48

gooner wrote:And why should we assume Wiggins doped?

At the end of the day, there is no basis, allegation or rumour against him. End of. Plus like I said many times before he has been outspoken against doping more than most.

I am not like people here who go around accusing people of doping on the basis of a great performance when they have nothing to back it up.

With Contador it is totally different as we had the story with OP and people always had their suspicions on him even before his clenbuterol positive. There is nothing suspicious about Wiggins other than great performances which people love to question around here.

You're going beyond not claiming someone doped without hard evidence, you're actually saying his winning proves being able to win clean is the norm. That's a huge leap forward.
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01 Jun 2012 12:13

I might add to my post that if he was doping before his ban, he'll continue to do so after his ban.
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01 Jun 2012 12:14

The clean Wiggins makes an appearance again :D
Testing the bounds of reality.
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01 Jun 2012 12:25

gooner wrote:He has ridden for Sky and Garmin who are 2 teams who send out the right signals against doping. He also sends out the right signals individually himself. Just look at his interviews he did during the 07 Tour. That did'nt sound like a fellow who was doping to me. He spoke out even when Cofidis left the race. That was vehemently anti-doping and it was'nt done for PR either. Because of this I am inclined to believe him a lot more than others.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/?id=/riders/2007/interviews/tour_wiggins_post07

Sigh. I don't want to turn this into another Wiggins/Garmin thread, but that's still a huge leap forward. About as huge as Wiggins' performance from the autobus to the front. What he said in 2007 is completely irrelevant.

edit: I mean, you can't pick a controversial, widely disputed fact over which there's absolutely no consensus, base whole theories on that and then belittle those who question your hypotheses. A Wiggins that dopes is better supported by the evidence.
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01 Jun 2012 12:47

I noticed the question mark is missing in the thread's title, which is wise, cuz it's not really a question anyway.
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01 Jun 2012 12:51

There you have it folks, going from the autobus to 4th is normal. We can use whoever did that as a safe measuring stick.
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01 Jun 2012 12:54

sniper wrote:I noticed the question mark is missing in the thread's title, which is wise, cuz it's not really a question anyway.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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01 Jun 2012 13:00

when did he stop?

He is continuing to ride his bike he is continuing to dope!
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01 Jun 2012 13:00

I voted "NO". I'm hearing he's turning vegetarian
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