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15 Dec 2018 06:08

JV needs to form a partnership with Tesla to keep up
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15 Dec 2018 10:22

pastronef wrote:
zlev11 wrote:they're going to absolutely suffocate every race this year to try to secure a big sponsor. not good news at all.


like Quikstep did in every one day race? they were looking for a sponsor too.

check their spring one day and stage wins, some of them in a row. some in the same day in different races


...but what about....? :rolleyes:
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15 Dec 2018 10:25

Benotti69 wrote:
Parker wrote:
Robert5091 wrote:
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zlev11 wrote:they're going to absolutely suffocate every race this year to try to secure a big sponsor. not good news at all.


That will lead to a LOT more bad PR that will not help getting a sponsor.


But if riders are trying to get a contract for 2020 ...

Anyone on a Sky team in major races will be sought after by other teams. Everyone knows what they are capable of.


They are capable off on rocket fuel and the latest motor.

No one did well away from Sky.

McLaren joing bahrain merida is so obviously motor doping, imo.


Uran did get the second step on the podium at the Tour after leaving Sky. Porte had a lot of success in major week long stage races but of course he still can't finish what he starts in grand tours.
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15 Dec 2018 11:44

Yeah, tons of people do well after leaving Sky, or better before joining Sky. The Sky sauce has never been for the whole team.
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15 Dec 2018 11:54

good point!................so post team sky how long must we wait 'til we find out

what exactly provided..........that 'Extra Power Output...........................?'

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15 Dec 2018 15:15

Random Direction wrote:JV needs to form a partnership with Tesla to keep up


They did for a few races this year.
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15 Dec 2018 16:21

Viviani has done better since leaving Sky.

Uran has done alright.

Landa, well he always struggles the first year he's with a team, does better the 2nd year and changes teams.
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15 Dec 2018 18:29

Angliru wrote:Uran did get the second step on the podium at the Tour after leaving Sky. Porte had a lot of success in major week long stage races but of course he still can't finish what he starts in grand tours.


Porte is an abject failure.

Uran did ok. But he may have won the Giro that Wiggins phucked up.
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15 Dec 2018 18:30

Random Direction wrote:JV needs to form a partnership with Tesla to keep up


Tesla are going out of business.

Hope Vaughters follows.
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15 Dec 2018 23:32

thehog wrote:<<<SNIP>>>
The high cost of large severance payments for ex-employees, Froome’s defense bill, Wiggins fallout PR took its toll. Cheating became too expensive for Sky. Freeman’s suspension coming up soon would have been the last straw. Best to get ahead of the curve and let Wiggins and co. fight it out in the media.

Now all theses crappy doms who thought they had talent will be really crap and have to take a 20% pay cut at their next team - if they can find a next team.


Like Postal to Discovery?
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16 Dec 2018 22:55

Benotti69 wrote:
Angliru wrote:Uran did get the second step on the podium at the Tour after leaving Sky. Porte had a lot of success in major week long stage races but of course he still can't finish what he starts in grand tours.


Porte is an abject failure.

Uran did ok. But he may have won the Giro that Wiggins phucked up.


No sky agenda, but I like to call out crap when I see it. And this is crap. I
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17 Dec 2018 21:49

Yeah, that kind of comment only shows that someone's blinded by bias.
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19 Dec 2018 21:40

simoni wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
Angliru wrote:Uran did get the second step on the podium at the Tour after leaving Sky. Porte had a lot of success in major week long stage races but of course he still can't finish what he starts in grand tours.


Porte is an abject failure.

Uran did ok. But he may have won the Giro that Wiggins phucked up.


No sky agenda, but I like to call out crap when I see it. And this is crap. I

Not really. Sure Porte was great in the one week stage races and as a domestique, but each time he had a chance to ride for himself at a GT he fell apart - see the 2014 TdF and 2015 Giro.

If Uran didn't have to babysit Wigans in the rain only for him to withdraw at the 2013 Giro, yes, Uran would have had a realistic chance at winning considering how the rest of the race turned out. You can't fluke second place in a GT with a time penalty like that.
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28 Dec 2018 14:23

Kick a team when it is down?

Blythe: We race on passion at Lotto not bullsh*t marginal gains
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/blythe-we-race-on-passion-at-lotto-not-bullshit-marginal-gains/
;)
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28 Dec 2018 18:02

Ok

Marginal gain with Sky = win **** loads

Adam Blythe speak about no marginal gains bullshit = he’s won f#ck all


Next question please
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28 Dec 2018 20:12

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28 Dec 2018 23:19

TourOfSardinia wrote:Kick a team when it is down?

Blythe: We race on passion at Lotto not bullsh*t marginal gains
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/blythe-we-race-on-passion-at-lotto-not-bullshit-marginal-gains/
;)

Blythe talks as though he's a rider with Boonenesque palmares rather than someone who got a job at Lotto because Ben Swift turned them down.

Also he's unlikely to kick Sky seeing as his partner and mother of his child has worked for Sky throughout their existence
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29 Dec 2018 11:41

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29 Dec 2018 11:53

rick james wrote:Ok

Marginal gain with Sky = win **** loads

Adam Blythe speak about no marginal gains bullshit = he’s won f#ck all


Next question please


my mate drinks ten pints then always blames the fresh air when he leaves the pub for him feeling....er...'tired and emotional'

so...question...is it the fresh air or is it the pints? ;) ;)
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29 Dec 2018 16:03

gillan1969 wrote:
rick james wrote:Ok

Marginal gain with Sky = win **** loads

Adam Blythe speak about no marginal gains bullshit = he’s won f#ck all


Next question please


my mate drinks ten pints then always blames the fresh air when he leaves the pub for him feeling....er...'tired and emotional'

so...question...is it the fresh air or is it the pints? ;) ;)

"my mate" :D ;)
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