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08 Jan 2017 18:33

thehog wrote:
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Benotti69 wrote:Froome playing a dangerous game of nudging Wiggins and Brailsford towards under the bus. That wont endear him to other teams. He may get a 1 year contract from someone like BMC/Bahrain to pick his brain but if he is gonna hurt others.........

Maybe he's hoping to get that 2012 tdf title backdated.
Not totally unthinkable. All it would need is evidence of Wiggins sticking a needle in his arm or *** on that last day of the dauphine and he's cooked. UKAD/UCI would have to strip him.
Chances are small. But who knows.


I believe the unresolved dispute between Michelle and Kat, that Michelle wants that 2012 title. At the going rate Dawg is going to have 8 titles.

It's good theatre.

So Tony Blair's Spinmeister was called in to rescue the PR disaster created by the lies of Team Sky, prganizes a pressconference for Froomecound to back SDB, but Froomecound rebel and use it as a platform to make a bid for that 2012 tdf title that was rightfully Froomecounds anyway. (If only Yates hadn't ordered froomscound to wait).

I bet Campbell was going berserk internally as it all happened in front of his eyes. "You had one job....."
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Re: Re:

08 Jan 2017 19:50

sniper wrote:
thehog wrote:
sniper wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:Froome playing a dangerous game of nudging Wiggins and Brailsford towards under the bus. That wont endear him to other teams. He may get a 1 year contract from someone like BMC/Bahrain to pick his brain but if he is gonna hurt others.........

Maybe he's hoping to get that 2012 tdf title backdated.
Not totally unthinkable. All it would need is evidence of Wiggins sticking a needle in his arm or *** on that last day of the dauphine and he's cooked. UKAD/UCI would have to strip him.
Chances are small. But who knows.


I believe the unresolved dispute between Michelle and Kat, that Michelle wants that 2012 title. At the going rate Dawg is going to have 8 titles.

It's good theatre.

So Tony Blair's Spinmeister was called in to rescue the PR disaster created by the lies of Team Sky, prganizes a pressconference for Froomecound to back SDB, but Froomecound rebel and use it as a platform to make a bid for that 2012 tdf title that was rightfully Froomecounds anyway. (If only Yates hadn't ordered froomscound to wait).

I bet Campbell was going berserk internally as it all happened in front of his eyes. "You had one job....."



Froome goes off script, it's like Mark Fabaini Master of Diaster all over again with Lance. The Dawg is loyal to Lady Dawg not Sir Dave of Dodginess.
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Re: Re:

10 Jan 2017 21:15

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MmeDesgrange wrote:So where once Froome's refusal of the 2015 TUE was pragmatic (he knew people would talk in an already fraught and febrile atmosphere) now it was entirely a moral decision? Funny how refusing a TUE is never done on something like, um, medical grounds.

Got to love Froome, he makes it so easy to see straight through him (and not just because he looks like a human X-ray)


human x-ray, gotta love that :D


and one of Brailsford's skeletons in the closet
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15 Jan 2017 18:30

doperhopper wrote:
bigcog wrote:
MmeDesgrange wrote:So where once Froome's refusal of the 2015 TUE was pragmatic (he knew people would talk in an already fraught and febrile atmosphere) now it was entirely a moral decision? Funny how refusing a TUE is never done on something like, um, medical grounds.

Got to love Froome, he makes it so easy to see straight through him (and not just because he looks like a human X-ray)


human x-ray, gotta love that :D


and one of Brailsford's skeletons in the closet


BOOM, nice call back.

It's a Dawg eat Sir world.
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17 Jan 2017 17:00

Dave Smith interviews Michelle Cound, TdF rest day 2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX58zuGqZuM&t=29s
Interesting body language.
Cound's answer to the question regarding the "Monaco base" is hilarious at best.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

04 Feb 2017 14:01

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8859/Chris-Froome-Interview-Ive-been-able-to-climb-in-the-front-group-quite-often-this-season.aspx

VN: You were born in Kenya, grew up in South Africa and now ride on a British license. Where do you feel at home?

CF: Good question, I'm still working on the answer to that. It always feels like home going back to Kenya but I normally spend the off season in South Africa where I can train properly and catch up with friends.


spoke about off season in S.A. already in 2011. rider with south-african background trains also in S.A.
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04 Feb 2017 17:52

I don't think Froome is dumb enough to throw Wiggins under the bus; too good a chance that Nibali will "win" his second Tour de France and 5th grand tour.
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11 Mar 2017 21:40

Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"
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11 Mar 2017 23:07

manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


Bermon is Froome's dcotor.
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11 Mar 2017 23:57

DanielSong39 wrote:I don't think Froome is dumb enough to throw Wiggins under the bus; too good a chance that Nibali will "win" his second Tour de France and 5th grand tour.


but cound could throw kath alliterationz under the bus

as Dear Wiggo put it, busthrowundery[sic]

Aghanistan was a proxy war. Iraq may have just been a prologue to the Persians alliterationz

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12 Mar 2017 00:21

Benotti69 wrote:
manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


Bermon is Froome's dcotor.


I know he is. That's why I posted it in this thread. This article is quite recent and shows some info about Bermon that I had never seen before. Article really alleges Bermon is the cause of Froome's transformation when he moved to Monaco in 2011.
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12 Mar 2017 13:50

manuthan15 wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


Bermon is Froome's dcotor.


I know he is. That's why I posted it in this thread. This article is quite recent and shows some info about Bermon that I had never seen before. Article really alleges Bermon is the cause of Froome's transformation when he moved to Monaco in 2011.


Be addressed quite a bit in this thread.

Wonder does Froome have an exclusivity clause with Froome a la Ferrari and Armstrong.
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12 Mar 2017 14:02

DanielSong39 wrote:I don't think Froome is dumb enough to throw Wiggins under the bus; too good a chance that Nibali will "win" his second Tour de France and 5th grand tour.
If Wiggins goes under the bus it will be collateral damage: Brailsford is Froome's target.
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12 Mar 2017 15:17

manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


Interesting read, never seen that one before, cheers for the link.
Highly speculative, but interesting.

I can't see any bus maiming happening here. Would be great entertainment though.
What would anyone gain?
Omerta is maintained by shared skeletons innit?
Shared gummibears. Marginal gummibears. Can someone do a video edit of Syed doing marginal gummibears please?
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13 Mar 2017 08:03

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manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


Interesting read, never seen that one before, cheers for the link.
Highly speculative, but interesting.

I can't see any bus maiming happening here. Would be great entertainment though.
What would anyone gain?
Omerta is maintained by shared skeletons innit?
Shared gummibears. Marginal gummibears. Can someone do a video edit of Syed doing marginal gummibears please?


Vengeance.

Pay back for the perceived slights of 2012. For Sir Brad getting the epic win when 'he should have'. For SBW garnering more of the public affection. For all the **** between respective wives.

But I don't think Froome is the guy for the explicit 'bus-throwing'. I think he is the guy for the snide side-swipe and passive-aggressive undermining of SBW and Brailsford, which probably won't be enough to derail the bus.

If there is any bus-throwing, I think it'll come from someone either more volatile in a kind of semi-impulsive, 'scorched earth' purge of bitterness (e.g SBW or Sutton), or someone significantly more lowly, who may well gain much more than they lose (i.e. minor team-member, slighted rider, soigneur or similar who has seen some 'goings on'.) Or perhaps even from a Dr, who already has a substantial amount of money, and perhaps would relish the notoriety of being at a centre of a media storm.
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13 Mar 2017 10:38

manuthan15 wrote:Did anybody see this? https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/who-is-this-dr-stephane-bermon-learning-participants-at-a-iaaf-seminar-spesific-aspects-of-training-female-athletes-in-nairobi/

Pretty thorough info about Doctor Bermon and his links with Vino and Astana.
What's interesting is this part " Dr. Bermon shows in this seminar that he also has knowledge about the “grey areas” inside doping: World Sports Law Report’s: Tackling Doping in Sport 2011 (in association with UK Anti-Doping & Squire Sanders Hammonds, 16-17 March, London [DAY 1] look at session 3 this day: Borderline Issues in Anti-Doping: Scientific and Medical Update. Dr Stephane Bermon (IAAF Medical & Anti-Doping Commission). This lecture analysed how some areas of the prohibited list were not actually black and white, but rather several shades of grey. In particular, the lecture focused on three areas"


I will continue to say as i have said since the first Bermon thread, he has no links to Astana or Vino, he worked with Kashechkin after his comeback. He and Bermon even held a good seminar on anti doping in 2014 in Doha Goal in Qatar. (Not joking about the seminar, it was quite good)

It would be the same as saying Abdoujaparov has links to Vino and Astana since he helped Kashechkin prepare for the Vuelta in 11 and the WC in Mendrisio in 09, when in fact the Kazakh cycling federation president, and Samruk wanted him to mange Kash, in fact Kash i would argue he was clean in his comback, his post ban results are dogshit.

So, i dont think Bermon is the driving force at all with Froome, he is more likely a front

Edit: I have no idea how journalists got the idea that he has links to Vino, Vino worked with Ferrari and Fuentes back in the day, Kash with Ferrari pre-ban
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13 Mar 2017 11:13

So now that 'Froomey' has backed 'Dave B' along with 'Gee' it appears that Sky is one big happy family again. They have weathered the worst of the storm and all is well in the world again. The time delay between the last select hearing revelations and Froome issuing a statement is curious though. I think it likely that Froomey was put back in his box and forced to tow the party line once it became clear that 'Dave B' wasn't going anywhere.
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13 Mar 2017 14:10

ontheroad wrote:So now that 'Froomey' has backed 'Dave B' along with 'Gee' it appears that Sky is one big happy family again. They have weathered the worst of the storm and all is well in the world again. The time delay between the last select hearing revelations and Froome issuing a statement is curious though. I think it likely that Froomey was put back in his box and forced to tow the party line once it became clear that 'Dave B' wasn't going anywhere.


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13 Mar 2017 14:27

What's the odds for Froome getting Jiffy bags thrown at him in the TdF?
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13 Mar 2017 14:48

Robert5091 wrote:What's the odds for Froome getting Jiffy bags thrown at him in the TdF?


I'm making my jiffy bag fancy dress as we speak...
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