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15 Jun 2018 10:28

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year

No, he has another baby due
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15 Jun 2018 11:53

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?
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15 Jun 2018 11:58

what froome does really makes an extraterrestrial impression but it's not worth provoking him to completely impossible things such like tripple of gts, tripple + wc rr + wc tt + wc ttt. :D

it's not like he wins a gt without breaking a sweat. though, what i'm talking about? even having lost about 3' due to injuries, he won the giro mockingly easily. =)
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15 Jun 2018 12:45

Yeah, why just the 3 GTs.
I'm still wondering how he even lost so many Vueltas to **** riders. SMH at the insinuations here.
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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15 Jun 2018 12:50

MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p
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Re: Re:

15 Jun 2018 12:54

thehog wrote:
MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p

Werent you in the "Froome cant win one day races camp"?
Anyway, I'm happy theres an extra Froome supporter on the forum. :razz: ;)
SeriousSam wrote: Peña Cabarga is like Froome's Mount Doom, the place where his great power was forged into fearsome weapon. He was never going to lose here
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15 Jun 2018 13:00

silvergrenade wrote:
thehog wrote:
MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p

Werent you in the "Froome cant win one day races camp"?
Anyway, I'm happy theres an extra Froome supporter on the forum. :razz: ;)


No, I was in the Froome can’t win any bike race camp since he spent most of his early career pushing Greg Henderson :p
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15 Jun 2018 13:04

thehog wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:
thehog wrote:
MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p

Werent you in the "Froome cant win one day races camp"?
Anyway, I'm happy theres an extra Froome supporter on the forum. :razz:


No, I was in the Froome can’t win any bike race camp since he spent most of his early career pushing Greg Henderson :p

The past doesnt matter mate.
Its the present and the future that counts. :razz: ;)
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15 Jun 2018 14:05

"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It.“

Postive test :p
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15 Jun 2018 15:21

thehog wrote:
MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p


Why not, he is a god amongst men :D If doping is as rife as we are led to believe, then he is just better at maximising his potential !
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15 Jun 2018 17:14

thehog wrote:
silvergrenade wrote:
thehog wrote:
MartinGT wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year


Why not, why not the Worlds too?


He has already been stated he wants to win the road race at the worlds. I think Dawg can do it! :p

Werent you in the "Froome cant win one day races camp"?
Anyway, I'm happy theres an extra Froome supporter on the forum. :razz: ;)


No, I was in the Froome can’t win any bike race camp since he spent most of his early career pushing Greg Henderson :p


He’s proved you wrong then it seems....top dawg
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16 Jun 2018 07:12

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Do you think Froome will go for the tripple if he wins the Tour? That would be really taking the piss if he wins all 3 in one year

It is known.
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16 Jun 2018 12:29

Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html
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16 Jun 2018 12:45

Since one of the guys who did the report already had done a study showing EPO did n't help athletes, did not help either. :D

(Froome will let G win the Vuelta)
"Are you going to believe me or what you see with your own eyes?"

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Re: Froome Talk Only

16 Jun 2018 13:08

thehog wrote:Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html


Ouch. Interesting notes about the authors as well. The next few weeks will be interesting ...
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Re: Froome Talk Only

16 Jun 2018 13:49

thehog wrote:Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html


Nice to see that the Daily Mail is only a few weeks behind the Clinic. Maybe in a few more weeks they will note some of the other flaws in this study, particularly that actual empirical data that are available don't support it.

And a "delaying tactic"? They can't be serious! A lawyer like Mike Morgan would never intentionally delay a case just so that his client could race in a couple of GTs, and Froome himself is on the record saying that no one wants more than he does for this case to be settled as soon as possible.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

16 Jun 2018 13:57

Merckx index wrote:
thehog wrote:Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html


Nice to see that the Daily Mail is only a few weeks behind the Clinic. Maybe in a few more weeks they will note some of the other flaws in this study, particularly that actual empirical data that are available don't support it.

And a "delaying tactic"? They can't be serious! A lawyer like Mike Morgan would never intentionally delay a case just so that his client could race in a couple of GTs, and Froome himself is on the record saying that no one wants more than he does for this case to be settled as soon as possible.


It’s kinda odd that no journalist reporting on the case actually read the study when it first hit the streets. It’s was simply pushed with the headline “Blow to UCI’s case against Froome”. Now it appears someone read it and now it’s “Blow to Froome’s case” :cool:
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Re: Froome Talk Only

16 Jun 2018 17:50

Merckx index wrote:
And a "delaying tactic"? They can't be serious! A lawyer like Mike Morgan would never intentionally delay a case just so that his client could race in a couple of GTs, and Froome himself is on the record saying that no one wants more than he does for this case to be settled as soon as possible.


Love it! Well done, and I could not have said better myself.
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16 Jun 2018 20:23

thehog wrote:Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html


Is this the same guy that concluded EPO doesn't enhance performance in a previous study?

Sorry about that. Saw the post that answers this question.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

16 Jun 2018 20:34

thehog wrote:
Merckx index wrote:
thehog wrote:Good to see Froome not trying to game the system :cool:

Chris Froome drug defence suffers blow after cycling chiefs cast doubt on key study as tests were on dogs


Now, however, that study is the subject of intense scrutiny with senior figures at the UCI now understood to be questioning whether it is simply a delaying tactic being used to allow Froome to pursue a fifth Tour title next month.

A key flaw appears to be the admission in the Leiden paper that some of their conclusions are actually based on research not on humans but on dogs. It has actually caused some amusement in UCI circles given the British cyclist's 'Froome Dog' nickname.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5849529/Froome-drug-defence-suffers-blow-cycling-chiefs-cast-doubt-key-study.html


Nice to see that the Daily Mail is only a few weeks behind the Clinic. Maybe in a few more weeks they will note some of the other flaws in this study, particularly that actual empirical data that are available don't support it.

And a "delaying tactic"? They can't be serious! A lawyer like Mike Morgan would never intentionally delay a case just so that his client could race in a couple of GTs, and Froome himself is on the record saying that no one wants more than he does for this case to be settled as soon as possible.


It’s kinda odd that no journalist reporting on the case actually read the study when it first hit the streets. It’s was simply pushed with the headline “Blow to UCI’s case against Froome”. Now it appears someone read it and now it’s “Blow to Froome’s case” :cool:


With very few exceptions anglo cycling journalism is like writing for "Pravda" about Soviet cycling.
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