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13 Nov 2017 23:53

Leinster wrote:
Parker wrote:
Sue White wrote:Anybody know cannondale's annual budget compared to say sky?

JV is probably one of the best admins of a team out there.

Surely the primary role of a team boss is to attract sponsorship money. Everything flows from that. The better they are at doing it, the more successful the team is likely to be.

People are welcome to criticise the likes of Brailsford and Unzue, but the foundation of the successes of their teams has been their ability to secure long term sponsorship from big multi-national companies.

Don’t BSkyB own a significant chunk of Team Sky? Surely a big portion of Brailsford’s success is that he *doesnt* have to go running around looking for potential sponsors from about May/June every year, and can just focus on the team winning races


http://inrng.com/2017/09/the-finances-of-team-sky-2016/
...the team is 85% owned by Sky UK Limited and 15% by 21st Century Fox


2016 finances of Tour Racing Ltd who are a BSkyB holding company that own Team Sky at here
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14 Nov 2017 00:24

Leinster wrote:
Parker wrote:
Sue White wrote:Anybody know cannondale's annual budget compared to say sky?

JV is probably one of the best admins of a team out there.

Surely the primary role of a team boss is to attract sponsorship money. Everything flows from that. The better they are at doing it, the more successful the team is likely to be.

People are welcome to criticise the likes of Brailsford and Unzue, but the foundation of the successes of their teams has been their ability to secure long term sponsorship from big multi-national companies.

Don’t BSkyB own a significant chunk of Team Sky? Surely a big portion of Brailsford’s success is that he *doesnt* have to go running around looking for potential sponsors from about May/June every year, and can just focus on the team winning races


Not sure SdB does much these days, he certainly isn’t directing the team nor doing interviews.
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14 Nov 2017 10:14

This is the JV thread, not Sky. Stay on topic. Further off-topic postings will be deleted.
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14 Nov 2017 11:59

Susan Westemeyer wrote:This is the JV thread, not Sky. Stay on topic. Further off-topic postings will be deleted.



What I meant that SdB has beckme more like JV and general management rather running the team for race results.
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14 Nov 2017 12:06

thehog wrote:
Susan Westemeyer wrote:This is the JV thread, not Sky. Stay on topic. Further off-topic postings will be deleted.



What I meant that SdB has beckme more like JV and general management rather running the team for race results.
He was always general management, unlike JV, who coaches and acts like a DS.
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14 Nov 2017 12:13

Leinster wrote:
Parker wrote:
Sue White wrote:Anybody know cannondale's annual budget compared to say sky?

JV is probably one of the best admins of a team out there.

Surely the primary role of a team boss is to attract sponsorship money. Everything flows from that. The better they are at doing it, the more successful the team is likely to be.

People are welcome to criticise the likes of Brailsford and Unzue, but the foundation of the successes of their teams has been their ability to secure long term sponsorship from big multi-national companies.

Don’t BSkyB own a significant chunk of Team Sky? Surely a big portion of Brailsford’s success is that he *doesnt* have to go running around looking for potential sponsors from about May/June every year, and can just focus on the team winning races
Or one could argue that a part of other teams' success is that they develop and maintain a long term relationship with a sponsor while Slipstream's sponsor churn rate suggests a large part of their problem is poor sponsor relations.

Now one can ask what exactly is the problem here. It could be that the general manager - JV - doesn't actually want to manage and would prefer to be off coaching riders or acting as DS. It could be just bad luck after bad luck after bad luck in courting and landing the wrong sponsor. It could be that cycling's economic model is borked and the only thing that will save teams - Slipstream to Sky - is revenue sharing. And franchises for life.
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