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15 May 2017 14:45

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IndianCyclist wrote:Quote in cyclingnews
Formolo has worked hard on his time trialing with new coach Leonardo Piepoli and finished 16th in the 14.5km time trial at Paris-Nice, only two seconds slower than Yates

Piepoli - the same Piepoli who was banned in the Ricco affair???
Piepoli also coaches:

* Fabio Felline (Trek)
* Alberto Bettiol (Cannondale)
* Daniel Moreno (Movistar)
* Andrey Amador (Movistar)

Some pretty impressive results there. Kudos to Piepoli
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15 May 2017 15:35

IndianCyclist wrote:Quote in cyclingnews
Formolo has worked hard on his time trialing with new coach Leonardo Piepoli and finished 16th in the 14.5km time trial at Paris-Nice, only two seconds slower than Yates

Piepoli - the same Piepoli who was banned in the Ricco affair???



Nothing new about this - Been mentioned in different forms of media - The cycling podcast even interviewed Piepoli 3 days ago - It's like you don't follow cycling.
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15 May 2017 15:49

yaco wrote:
IndianCyclist wrote:Quote in cyclingnews
Formolo has worked hard on his time trialing with new coach Leonardo Piepoli and finished 16th in the 14.5km time trial at Paris-Nice, only two seconds slower than Yates

Piepoli - the same Piepoli who was banned in the Ricco affair???



Nothing new about this - Been mentioned in different forms of media - The cycling podcast even interviewed Piepoli 3 days ago - It's like you don't follow cycling.

Easy now, there's no reason to escalate this into something that it's not.
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15 May 2017 17:06

yaco wrote:
IndianCyclist wrote:Quote in cyclingnews
Formolo has worked hard on his time trialing with new coach Leonardo Piepoli and finished 16th in the 14.5km time trial at Paris-Nice, only two seconds slower than Yates

Piepoli - the same Piepoli who was banned in the Ricco affair???



Nothing new about this - Been mentioned in different forms of media - The cycling podcast even interviewed Piepoli 3 days ago - It's like you don't follow cycling.
God, I miss the days when if you talked about doping people would shout at you that it was like you didn't follow cycling, now it's if you don't listen to some podcast or other you're a fake. <sigh>
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15 May 2017 17:11

On the issue of some of JV's riders working with a convicted doper like Trullo Volante, I think the cut-off for JV is about 2011 or 2012, that anything before that you could argue mistakes were made yada yada yada it was the culture of the time blah blah blah. So the real test is whether anyone who's popped a positive post 2011/2012 is working with any of his riders...

Remember: JV has never bought into or promoted the ridiculous ZTP hypocrisy.
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15 May 2017 17:45

fmk_RoI wrote:On the issue of some of JV's riders working with a convicted doper like Trullo Volante, I think the cut-off for JV is about 2011 or 2012, that anything before that you could argue mistakes were made yada yada yada it was the culture of the time blah blah blah. So the real test is whether anyone who's popped a positive post 2011/2012 is working with any of his riders...

Remember: JV has never bought into or promoted the ridiculous ZTP hypocrisy.


I seem to remember JV talking about spending big dollars on internal team testing to keep riders on the straight and narrow and i think Don Cailtin was involved.

I also remember he invited Tilford to Denver to check it out.

Then TommyD got popped on USA soil and the myth of a clean team vanished into thin air from whence it came.
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15 May 2017 17:46

I also thought Formolo was an understudy to Basso at some stage on Liquigas.
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02 Jun 2017 15:55

JV looking for more money. Motors and Ketones are expensive it's true.
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02 Jun 2017 16:11

Benotti69 wrote:JV looking for more money. Motors and Ketones are expensive it's true.
Ketones aren't illegal, AFAIK, and although motor-pacing can be, cops usually let it slide, and so does the UCI unless someone online sets it to Benny Hill. So not sure what the big deal is, there? I mean JV's always looking to score, a great deal, but that's just who he is.
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02 Jun 2017 17:01

Benotti69 wrote:JV looking for more money. Motors and Ketones are expensive it's true.


Hammertime and Velon will save JV and the other teams.










Or not.
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02 Jun 2017 17:21

Sideburns and bad taste.
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09 Jun 2017 17:32

Benotti69 wrote:I also thought Formolo was an understudy to Basso at some stage on Liquigas.


Formolo performing badly at the Dauphiné.......does form drop off so quick.....nope.
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11 Jun 2017 20:11

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Benotti69 wrote:I also thought Formolo was an understudy to Basso at some stage on Liquigas.


Formolo performing badly at the Dauphiné.......does form drop off so quick.....nope.


Thats completely ridiculous, good form can disappear in a day.
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12 Jun 2017 01:26

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fmk_RoI wrote:On the issue of some of JV's riders working with a convicted doper like Trullo Volante, I think the cut-off for JV is about 2011 or 2012, that anything before that you could argue mistakes were made yada yada yada it was the culture of the time blah blah blah. So the real test is whether anyone who's popped a positive post 2011/2012 is working with any of his riders...

Remember: JV has never bought into or promoted the ridiculous ZTP hypocrisy.


I seem to remember JV talking about spending big dollars on internal team testing to keep riders on the straight and narrow and i think Don Cailtin was involved.

I also remember he invited Tilford to Denver to check it out.

Then TommyD got popped on USA soil and the myth of a clean team vanished into thin air from whence it came.


When you can't win a WT race in two years, even convicted doper is a reasonable option as a coach.
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22 Jun 2017 17:48

With UCI caving to ASO's demands for smaller GT squads - down to eight from nine in 2018 and after - I'm really not sure it's the 'meat puppet' JV has to fear.

(Also, UCI has re-iterated its support for relegation, though that is now deferred to 2020.)

JV's 10 Point Plan and the prospect of franchises for life seems like such a long, long time ago.
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10 Jul 2017 11:48

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Benotti69 wrote:
fmk_RoI wrote:On the issue of some of JV's riders working with a convicted doper like Trullo Volante, I think the cut-off for JV is about 2011 or 2012, that anything before that you could argue mistakes were made yada yada yada it was the culture of the time blah blah blah. So the real test is whether anyone who's popped a positive post 2011/2012 is working with any of his riders...

Remember: JV has never bought into or promoted the ridiculous ZTP hypocrisy.


I seem to remember JV talking about spending big dollars on internal team testing to keep riders on the straight and narrow and i think Don Cailtin was involved.

I also remember he invited Tilford to Denver to check it out.

Then TommyD got popped on USA soil and the myth of a clean team vanished into thin air from whence it came.


When you can't win a WT race in two years, even convicted doper is a reasonable option as a coach.


JV has no problem with doping. JV has a problem with getting caught doping.

His silence on Dekker's book is par for the course for a guy who has allegedly dedicated his life to anti-doping, but then his silence on Danielson tells all we need to know about JV.

I bet JV's lawyers went through Dekkers book. :lol:
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10 Jul 2017 13:24


Neal Rogers‏ @nealrogers 18 hours ago

After going 2 years without a WorldTour win, Cannondale-Drapac has now taken stages in California, Giro d’Italia, Tour de France


This is because of more testing and the anti-doping tests really work and it is virtually impossible to dope and not get caught!!!!

:lol:

I got some cure all snakeoil from Denver Colorado, anyone want some? :D
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08 Nov 2017 18:54

So much to cover.

1) JV and and his French vedette Pierre Rolland are no longer talking
Vaughters did express that his relationship with the team’s star French rider, Pierre Rolland, suffered, due to the Frenchman feeling betrayed by the team’s sudden financial trouble. At the time of the interview, the two were no longer on speaking terms, despite Vaughters doubling as Rolland’s personal coach.
2) The lack of revenue sharing and franchises for life drove JV into the arms of financial doping, aka creative accountancy
Much of that stress seemed to be of Vaughters’s own creation. He’d been relying on some creative accounting — to put it kindly — for the last few years to effectively inflate the team’s budget beyond its actual means. Every team in the WorldTour has a bank guarantee with the UCI, so that if the team folds, salaries continue to be paid for about three months. Slipstream had been leaning on this guarantee, only funding itself through October of each year. If it didn’t find a sponsor by then, it would run out of money and the UCI would pay salaries through the end of the year.
3) Having survived the loss of Unibet before they'd even signed by selling his stake in Slipstream to the Paradise Papers starring tax dodgers at EF Education First, JV and co have now lost HuffPo and co - Oath - as a marquee sponsor
“While we will no longer be working with Slipstream, we wish the Cannondale-Drapac team success for the 2018 season,” said Suzanne Philion, a spokeswoman for Oath, adding the company “remains committed to partnering with global brands to create and deliver innovative content for our users.”
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08 Nov 2017 20:09

fmk_RoI wrote:So much to cover.

1) JV and and his French vedette Pierre Rolland are no longer talking
Vaughters did express that his relationship with the team’s star French rider, Pierre Rolland, suffered, due to the Frenchman feeling betrayed by the team’s sudden financial trouble. At the time of the interview, the two were no longer on speaking terms, despite Vaughters doubling as Rolland’s personal coach.
2) The lack of revenue sharing and franchises for life drove JV into the arms of financial doping, aka creative accountancy
Much of that stress seemed to be of Vaughters’s own creation. He’d been relying on some creative accounting — to put it kindly — for the last few years to effectively inflate the team’s budget beyond its actual means. Every team in the WorldTour has a bank guarantee with the UCI, so that if the team folds, salaries continue to be paid for about three months. Slipstream had been leaning on this guarantee, only funding itself through October of each year. If it didn’t find a sponsor by then, it would run out of money and the UCI would pay salaries through the end of the year.
3) Having survived the loss of Unibet before they'd even signed by selling his stake in Slipstream to the Paradise Papers starring tax dodgers at EF Education First, JV and co have now lost HuffPo and co - Oath - as a marquee sponsor
“While we will no longer be working with Slipstream, we wish the Cannondale-Drapac team success for the 2018 season,” said Suzanne Philion, a spokeswoman for Oath, adding the company “remains committed to partnering with global brands to create and deliver innovative content for our users.”
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Thanks for this; there was always something very odd in JVs search for sponsors each year. Additionally in May he was writing an Op Ed in the WSJ on a search for additionally sponsorship to “compete on the same level as Sky”. Clearly this was a ruse to meet a “margin call” on funds.

JVs grounding in the Real Estate industry has served him well.
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08 Nov 2017 22:55

It's weird that JV/Slipstream Sports has gone through so many sponsors in such a short time. Makes you wonder if it's pro cycling or JV that eventually turns them sour to committing $$$ to the team...

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