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06 Sep 2017 18:17

Now that Serena is out of the game does Venus get free reign of the family PED's cabinet?

She has made a remarkable resurgence in her sisters absence, at the youthful age of 37 with her debilitating illnesses...
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06 Sep 2017 19:31

The King of dopers is about to make the semifinals, where he will likely meet the one guy who is just as juiced as he is.

Tough to take tennis' stance on drugs seriously as long as the Big 4 and the Williams sisters face no consequences.
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03 Oct 2017 17:25

The litany need amending with the addition of the washbag excuse.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/oct/03/dan-evans-banned-for-year-positive-cocaine-test

More plausible than most and with charlie not even banned out of competition, Evans puts up a well-constructed defence, all in all.
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15 Oct 2017 15:20

Federer and Nadal in the final again.

Are we in a time warp?

Maybe Djokovic will win 3 slams next season; nothing would surprise me at this point.
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16 Nov 2017 19:47

This may be a lesson to Spartacus and what's his name:
Rafael Nadal wins damages against French ex-minister over doping claim

A Paris court ordered Roselyne Bachelot to pay 12,000 euros in damages and legal costs to the world number one for comments she made on television last year. Nadal had sought 100,000 euros in an attempt to set an example. Bachelot was also given a suspended fine of 500 euros.

In March 2016, Bachelot – then a TV pundit having been health and sports minister from 2007-2010 – accused Nadal on the D8 channel of having feigned injury during a seven-month absence from the circuit in 2012 to cover up a positive drugs test.

The ten-times winner of Roland Garros sued the ex-minister, calling on the International Tennis Federation to publish his test results. The federation replied that the player could reveal them himself, confirming that he had never been tested positive.
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16 Nov 2017 21:45

Breaking News:
Roselyn Bachelot ordered to pay 12,500 Euros for telling the truth

What a world we live in.
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17 Nov 2017 15:12

I suggest Daniel Song read the previous post.
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04 Jan 2018 21:25

Bellucci reveals he's been on a silent ban since the USO. Didn't know it was a confirmed practice :o

https://www.vavel.com/en-us/tennis-usa/864296-thomaz-bellucci-received-five-month-silent-ban-after-failed-drugs-test.html
Veni, Vidi, Kirby

I came, I saw, I was dead wrong as per usual
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05 Jan 2018 01:44

Red Rick wrote:Bellucci reveals he's been on a silent ban since the USO. Didn't know it was a confirmed practice :o

https://www.vavel.com/en-us/tennis-usa/864296-thomaz-bellucci-received-five-month-silent-ban-after-failed-drugs-test.html


Silent bans seem to be self defeating for the sport at an ethical level but obviously they want the dollars to keep rolling in. I wonder what the anti doping agencies think of this ?
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05 Jan 2018 14:22

Silent bans tied in with short suspension periods seems the established order of the day now for tennis. They can pass it all off as an injury that way, Bellucci being merely the latest to use the injury scam.
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05 Jan 2018 15:08

Was Marion Bartoli on a 4 year silent ban?
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07 Jan 2018 20:48

This is the reasoned decision in the Bellucci case. http://www.itftennis.com/media/277960/277960.pdf

Essentially, he blamed contaminated prescription compounded vitamin pills for his AAF.
To establish his 'innocence', he had vitamin pills (which he hadn't admitted taking on his doping control form) tested at his own expense, in a lab of his choosing (without any ITF anti-doping involvement). He further attempted to establish that he wasn't using HCTC as a steroid-masking agent by having 'his' hair tested at his own expense, in a lab of his choosing, and at a time of his choosing (again without any ITF anti-doping involvement). The pills were subsequently tested at a WADA lab, but since the originally sealed-containers had been opened already, this result is of limited/no value, IMO.

According the the document, "bespoke vitamin formulations" prescribed by the same doctor and biochemist, and formulated by the same pharmacy, have gotten Brazilian athletes in trouble before.

Why on earth would a former world #21, be so apparently unaware of his anti-doping responsibilities, need for "utmost caution", and be risking his career in this way?
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07 Jan 2018 21:04

Zebadeedee wrote:Silent bans tied in with short suspension periods seems the established order of the day now for tennis. They can pass it all off as an injury that way, Bellucci being merely the latest to use the injury scam.


You can think of silent bans in 2 ways.

1] Non-announcement while case is pending:
Athlete has an AAF and fights with their IF to establish innocence vs. guilt till tribunal concluded. This takes time. I can see a case for keeping this kept private in the (however unlikely) event that an athlete categorically proves themselves innocent. In that scenario, why should they be subject to condemnation by assumption while the case is playing out? (and this is consistent with the WADA code).

2] Flat out fraud, for PR reasons:
Athlete has AAF, the IF concludes they committed an ADRV, tells them to scram for a while as punishment, but fails to make this public. The athlete cites absence due to injury, licks their financial wounds, but doesn';t lose face. The problem is that his would require the complicity of WADA, since they are aware of all AAFs, even if the samples are initially anonymous. I can't absolutely discount this possibility, but for me it's a real stretch.
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12 Apr 2018 22:55

What do we know about Pierre Paganini, Federer's fitness coach now (also?) working with Wawrinka, who was "the secret to Federer's success"?
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24 Apr 2018 00:00

Wow, Nadal.
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24 Apr 2018 00:02

TMP402 wrote:What do we know about Pierre Paganini, Federer's fitness coach now (also?) working with Wawrinka, who was "the secret to Federer's success"?


Both dudes are doped to the hills; it's not exactly news.
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29 May 2018 12:34

Unbelieveable Sam Stosur - the BICEPS HAVE DISAPPEARED and she actually looks normal. Must have a had a quiet warning.
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29 May 2018 14:09

Ugh, HBO is now running a documentary on Serena. It blows my mind how the public at large is completely ignorant of her doping. I even emailed the editor of The New Yorker after he wrote a piece glorifying her talents. He too seemed to think it was plausible she's clean. Ugh.
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06 Jun 2018 18:18

Sabalenka is a pretty impressive physical specimen for a barely older than teenage girl.

Anyway, Elina Svitolina, French Open 2017

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Elina Svitolina, French Open 2018

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That muscle definition.
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06 Jun 2018 19:35

Well I am happier to see muscle definition on female players - There are still a few who are out of shape, though this has improved in the last 5 years.
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