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30 Jan 2017 22:16

It takes incredible talent to play the way Rafa does. Swinging that hard with that much control is crazy, crazy hard. The fact that he's playing an incredibly physical game, doesn't mean that he's hitting easy shots

Nadal had more talent in his removed appendix than Raonic
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30 Jan 2017 22:27

Red Rick wrote:It takes incredible talent to play the way Rafa does. Swinging that hard with that much control is crazy, crazy hard. The fact that he's playing an incredibly physical game, doesn't mean that he's hitting easy shots

Nadal had more talent in his removed appendix than Raonic


Raonic is another Roddick, not even that good yet.
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30 Jan 2017 22:46

Those two aren't even that similar.
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30 Jan 2017 23:10

No one is doubting Nadal's talent. With that said, one would expect him to be half-crippled by now instead of losing in 5 sets in the final of a Grand Slam.

As points of comparison Jim Courier was finished as a top-level player by 23 after 3 great seasons; Hewitt didn't do much after 2005, at the age of 24. Both had very physical games and it clearly took their toll.
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30 Jan 2017 23:45

RIP, apparently, the THASP blog.........

Tipping my hat to those who ran it, and also to the folks who posted there (the sane ones, obviously, not the loons :lol:)
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31 Jan 2017 01:42

Not sure why the THASP blog died then and there. It could have at least fired one last parting shot at the four finalists at the Australian Open...
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31 Jan 2017 05:25

I'm confident Raonic can win a major, likely Wimbly where the faster court makes his serve even more unreturnable. His movement and court coverage has to continue to improve and that's not easy for a man of his size. But I guarantee that nobody wants him on their side of the draw come grass or faster hardcourt season.

I would love to know the hematocrits of several of the top players and their Hct norms during the month of November/December when they're on Holiday. Maybe nothing would smell but it's just hard to understand how someone like Nadal can do what he does for as long as he does on that court and then bounces back to do it again with so little time to recoup. It wasn't always like this, in the past you could see someone burning their matches in the early rounds by going 5 sets too soon in the tourney and that would leave them with nothing in the bank for the later rounds. Now, it's like 5 set and 5 hour matches, no big deal.
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31 Jan 2017 14:18

arcus wrote:RIP, apparently, the THASP blog.........

Tipping my hat to those who ran it, and also to the folks who posted there (the sane ones, obviously, not the loons :lol:)

What blog? I don't know it
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31 Jan 2017 16:56

Tennis has a steroid problem.
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31 Jan 2017 22:07

Well, it's pretty obvious that the four finalists in the Australian Open were doping. Looks like Federer got an upgrade, though. Did he get a referral from Nadal?
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11 Feb 2017 18:07

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11 Feb 2017 20:45

Nail. Head. BANG

It's basically the perfect summary of what many people think. People who deny it just want to stick their head in the sand, explain everything with 'talent, hard work and improved training methods' and look at you like you just committed blasphemy.
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Re: Tennis

12 Feb 2017 10:43

Best summary of doping I have read in years. 10/10
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03 Apr 2017 12:25

Federer and Nadal again!

I guess Djokovic and Murray are experiencing down cycles?
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03 Apr 2017 19:49

Could be.
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27 Apr 2017 06:50

Catfight! :D
http://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/39727651
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28 Apr 2017 15:42

eugenie bouchard, yeah, attractive, but take away the blonde hair you have an athlete with the bone structure of a male model that screams hormones rivened thru her veins, no doubt loads of exogenous androgens, and they can now me transported via creams and dermis and topical method
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28 Apr 2017 20:00

Not that it will make Bouchard feel better, but it seems likely that Serena Williams will not be playing tennis again.

As for Sharapova, I'm sure she will be right back to her doping ways and continue to hit those rocket groundstrokes. Now with Serena out of the way, maybe she can win a couple more slams before her own retirement. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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15 May 2017 16:53

Ugh, I watched the college lacrosse playoffs this weekend on ESPN and was subjected to a Serena commercial about 50 times. It was her smashing a ping pong ball so hard it broke a lamp. Ugh, for anyone aware of her doping, it was painful. :(
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25 May 2017 19:03

A piece of tennis fiction but strongly claimed as based on the actualitè - "Brunt said that during his research “people in a position to know” told him that the use of performance-enhancing drugs was “prevalent” in tennis.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/25/sports/tennis/douglas-brunt-trophy-son.html?action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

The ITF's Miller remains in denial about the use of silent bans in tennis. Both the ITF and Wimbledon acted complicitly in going along with lies Cilic told to account for his sudden withdrawal from Wimbledon in 2013 after winning his first round match. He claimed a knee injury whereas he'd been caught doping. Wimbledon allowed all this nonsense about his knee to be published knowing full well it was a pack of lies. When Agassi was caught doping, the ATP hushed the matter up completely. Agassi wasn't even banned!
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