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Omega Pharma Quick Step: Are you kidding me??

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06 Apr 2017 12:48

Netserk wrote:Why? Terpstra and Stybar hasn't really changed much, certainly not for the better. Tommeke isn't the best benchmark as his prep was worse last year. Alaphilippe is still so young that you'd expect him to improve somewhat. Dan Martin is also pretty much the same level.


Martin has improved so much after he changed teams last year, much stronger in real mountains and no more days in crisis. Terpstra also improved a lot after he changed.
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06 Apr 2017 14:16

So? What does that have to say about whether or not the QS team doctor has improved his help to the riders from last year to this year?
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06 Apr 2017 14:39

Martin has moved from Girona to Andorra to train himself to be better at longer efforts, i.e mountains, so thats hardly surprising.
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08 Apr 2017 18:17

Valv.Piti wrote:Martin has moved from Girona to Andorra to train himself to be better at longer efforts, i.e mountains, so thats hardly surprising.


He has regressed at QS anyway. He won LBL, Lombardia and a Tour stage at Garmin. He just won some small ****** wins with QS so far.
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10 Apr 2017 00:48

El Pistolero wrote:
Valv.Piti wrote:Martin has moved from Girona to Andorra to train himself to be better at longer efforts, i.e mountains, so thats hardly surprising.


He has regressed at QS anyway. He won LBL, Lombardia and a Tour stage at Garmin. He just won some small ****** wins with QS so far.


He hasn't regressed and is riding more consistently with Quickstep, his final year with Garmin wasn't great and then moving to Quickstep did something as he rode very well last season and started this season in good form. In 2016 he was 9th in the Tour and was actually climbing consistantly in that race, 3rd at the Dauphine and Catalunya plus a 3rd at Flèche. You can't just look at wins when looking at how a rider is performing, yes he had big wins at Garmin but was going backwards in 2015 and moving to Quickstep has changed that.
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12 Jul 2017 17:58

Kittel flying. :rolleyes:
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12 Jul 2017 18:45

El Pistolero wrote:
Valv.Piti wrote:Martin has moved from Girona to Andorra to train himself to be better at longer efforts, i.e mountains, so thats hardly surprising.


He has regressed at QS anyway. He won LBL, Lombardia and a Tour stage at Garmin. He just won some small ****** wins with QS so far.


He hasn't regressed, he's much more consistent rider now and I would dare to say better rider than in his Garmin days. He just don't get the same space anymore. Everybody knows he's good and there's no leeway for him. He surprised everybody in that LBL, and his Lombardia win is mostly due to Valverde's mistake of not following him. Mistake he will not repeat, as we all could saw this last couple of years.
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12 Jul 2017 20:24

Benotti69 wrote:Kittel flying. :rolleyes:

It's very strange.
He's producing like 200watts more than guys like Greipel in the final 200 meters even though he doesn't really get much help from his team.
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12 Jul 2017 21:54

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Benotti69 wrote:Kittel flying. :rolleyes:

It's very strange.
He's producing like 200watts more than guys like Greipel in the final 200 meters even though he doesn't really get much help from his team.


I dont find it strange. Kittel quick to slam the nobodies who dope and yet he trashes everyone in sprints. Doping the game all the pros play. :D
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12 Jul 2017 22:04

on the nbc sports post race show today they had quick step ds brian holm on. He said Kittel produces about 2100 watts during a sprint. He also said cavendish could only do about 1400.
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13 Jul 2017 06:44

size...marcel v mark............ever seen their profiles sprinting straight for ya...............?

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13 Jul 2017 09:48

Benotti69 wrote:
sniper wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:Kittel flying. :rolleyes:

It's very strange.
He's producing like 200watts more than guys like Greipel in the final 200 meters even though he doesn't really get much help from his team.


I dont find it strange. Kittel quick to slam the nobodies who dope and yet he trashes everyone in sprints. Doping the game all the pros play. :D
True.

One of Kittel's mechanics, Rune Kristensen, is ex-CSC, so should know a thing or two about motors.
Greipel and the rest must be wondering what kind of tech Kittel is using.
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13 Jul 2017 10:50

Sprinting is watts / kg (for the acceleration) and watts / m^2 (aero - for the top end speed).

Cav is small / light and has a very aero position compared to Kittel.
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Re: Omega Pharma Quick Step: Are you kidding me??

01 Sep 2017 15:45

just bumping this, after their 15th grand tour stage of the year (5+5+5) and the Vuelta is still not finished
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01 Sep 2017 16:18

Dr Tuas is on form :D
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