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Cannondale getting dropped in the new era of cycling

02 Jun 2013 13:33

Talansky, Ryder?

What's going on with these guys?

I thought JV had the team in check for the new era and the speeds are down?
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02 Jun 2013 13:36

thehog wrote:Talansky, Ryder?

What's going on with these guys?

I thought JV had the team in check for the new era and the speeds are down?

Navardauskas?
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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02 Jun 2013 13:36

thehog wrote:Talansky, Ryder?

What's going on with these guys?

I thought JV had the team in check for the new era and the speeds are down?


Now that the peloton is clean the French team finally have a level playing field.:)
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02 Jun 2013 13:38

Eshnar wrote:Navardauskas?

Doesn't count. He ain't Anglo ;)
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02 Jun 2013 13:45

Eshnar wrote:Navardauskas?


Finished two and a half hours down on Nibali at the Giro.

This new era of cycling reminds me of the last new era.
But yeah, even Garmin can win an occasional stage. Seeing Talansky get shelled like a circus peanut today didn't give me much confidence in the the new cycling.
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02 Jun 2013 13:47

Navardauskas is not a GC rider so it's irrelevant how far back he finished.

He was very competitive in the stages that suit him in the second half of the Giro.

111 * Andrew TALANSKY
112 Jack BAUER
113 * Rohan DENNIS
114 Caleb FAIRLY
115 Koldo FERNANDEZ
116 * Alex HOWES
117 Michel KREDER
118 * Jacob RATHE

And most of these guys would get dropped on the stage like today in any era. The only concern is Talansky.
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02 Jun 2013 13:48

They had a dominant performance in Liege
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02 Jun 2013 13:49

Moose McKnuckles wrote:Finished two and a half hours down on Nibali at the Giro.

and....?
He won a stage and got a 2nd. Pulled a great performance overall.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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02 Jun 2013 13:58

Eshnar wrote:and....?
He won a stage and got a 2nd. Pulled a great performance overall.


And as I mentioned, they can win a stage on occasion. Did you not read my post? The issue is that they're getting hammered in the main stage races. P-N was an exception.
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02 Jun 2013 14:01

And Catalunya
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02 Jun 2013 14:04

Moose McKnuckles wrote:Finished two and a half hours down on Nibali at the Giro.

This new era of cycling reminds me of the last new era.
But yeah, even Garmin can win an occasional stage. Seeing Talansky get shelled like a circus peanut today didn't give me much confidence in the the new cycling.


This is the new new era which is newer than the old new era.
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02 Jun 2013 14:06

Must be a sharp virus.
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02 Jun 2013 14:09

Fearless Greg Lemond wrote:Must be a sharp virus.


Looks to me Saxo with intel from Rogees have dialled up the program. BMc will have done the same as Och is no stranger to what is required.

French teams will always do what they've done and dope in patches.

Sky will see that Saxo are a force and make sure the program is tuned team wide.

The Arms race is back on. But in a new form.
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02 Jun 2013 14:34

thehog wrote:Looks to me Saxo with intel from Rogees have dialled up the program. BMc will have done the same as Och is no stranger to what is required.

French teams will always do what they've done and dope in patches.

Sky will see that Saxo are a force and make sure the program is tuned team wide.

The Arms race is back on. But in a new form.
So Rohan Dennis has gone rogue?

Talansky was 'crap' in Romandie/Vasco too. When Bram Tankink is able to hang on longer on such a climb the ball is in Talansky's park imho.

Or it is extraction time of course. Or he is just a young rider having ups and downs. Or he is sick.

The Canadian fellow climbed faster than Talansky, says a lot.

And, here's Johnny with the answer:
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Hmmmm... Tough day for Talansky. He's still recovering from stomach flu. However, I see a glimmer of a special ride coming from another...

;)
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02 Jun 2013 14:38

Talansky's climbing is very inconsistent.
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02 Jun 2013 15:43

Fearless Greg Lemond wrote:So Rohan Dennis has gone rogue?

Talansky was 'crap' in Romandie/Vasco too. When Bram Tankink is able to hang on longer on such a climb the ball is in Talansky's park imho.

Or it is extraction time of course. Or he is just a young rider having ups and downs. Or he is sick.

The Canadian fellow climbed faster than Talansky, says a lot.

And, here's Johnny with the answer:
Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 3m
Hmmmm... Tough day for Talansky. He's still recovering from stomach flu. However, I see a glimmer of a special ride coming from another...

;)


Oh god. Do they all have the flu?

There was a time when the Dauphine was "withdraw" week.
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02 Jun 2013 15:44

thehog wrote:Oh god. Do they all have the flu?

There was a time when the Dauphine was "withdraw" week.


Looks like the JV league will open up on a TV near you.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vaughters-dollar-for-dollar-cycling-is-the-most-efficient-marketing-buy-out-there
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02 Jun 2013 15:47



From Pinotti's twitter:

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Some data from today's stage 1 #dauphine : col du Corbier 22'30" 5.4 w/kg ,20.5 km/h , drafting. Vam 1500 mt

Pretty high w/kg for an early climb, particularly considering it was a large peloton where the drafting effect must have been pretty big. And Veilleux didn't even lose time on the peloton on this climb...he must've been pushing at least 6 w/kg
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02 Jun 2013 16:06

thehog wrote:From Pinotti's twitter:

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Some data from today's stage 1 #dauphine : col du Corbier 22'30" 5.4 w/kg ,20.5 km/h , drafting. Vam 1500 mt

Pretty high w/kg for an early climb, particularly considering it was a large peloton where the drafting effect must have been pretty big. And Veilleux didn't even lose time on the peloton on this climb...he must've been pushing at least 6 w/kg
He is not from Turkey so he'll be fine. Wasnt there another Europcar rider in Turkey who was pretty okayish?
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Fearless Greg Lemond wrote:He is not from Turkey so he'll be fine. Wasnt there another Europcar rider in Turkey who was pretty okayish?

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