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01 Feb 2018 19:34

yaco wrote:
Parker wrote:
yaco wrote:
King Boonen wrote:
yaco wrote:NADO's dont need more money - Their doping figures are inflated by weekend warriors.

Huh?


Go through a NADO's list of positive tests and therefore suspensions - There are many amateur type 'athletes' in the pool - I don't see the value of busting a 52 year old athlete competing on weekends for a small stipend - There are far too many - Surely the mandate of the WADA code is to target PROFESSIONAL athletes - I want to see NADO's give more value for their money before handing out increased dollars.

I would expect that almost all the no-mark amateurs that get caught are due to tip-offs rather routine testing. They can't really ignore a credible tip-off.


Most are presence violations - Of course some could be because of tip offs - Then again there would be tip offs and target testing of professionals.


Gonna be loads of tip offs in Britain because English has no word for omerta. :lol:
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01 Feb 2018 19:54

yaco wrote:
Parker wrote:
yaco wrote:
King Boonen wrote:
yaco wrote:NADO's dont need more money - Their doping figures are inflated by weekend warriors.

Huh?


Go through a NADO's list of positive tests and therefore suspensions - There are many amateur type 'athletes' in the pool - I don't see the value of busting a 52 year old athlete competing on weekends for a small stipend - There are far too many - Surely the mandate of the WADA code is to target PROFESSIONAL athletes - I want to see NADO's give more value for their money before handing out increased dollars.

I would expect that almost all the no-mark amateurs that get caught are due to tip-offs rather routine testing. They can't really ignore a credible tip-off.


Most are presence violations - Of course some could be because of tip offs - Then again there would be tip offs and target testing of professionals.


Amateurs get caught because they are using unsophisticated methods, like buying Chinese EPO off the internet and following a regime that they also found on the internet.

Do you think that is what multi-millionaire Chris Froome would do, or do you think he might employ high-level doctors with the knowledge to avoid testing positive or tripping the BP
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02 Feb 2018 16:20

My post is referring to whether NADO's and WADA deserve further budget consideration after reviewing there doping convictions. Catching 'weekend warriors' should hardly their domain - The question is whether they give 'value for money'. I doubt this very much.
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02 Feb 2018 18:21

Understood. The point I am making is that sophisticated doping means by definition that it is hard to detect. Therefore costly to both administer and costly to detect.

If you want a kickass NADO it has to be funded appropriately.

I have a few pro-team contacts, and when I ask them whether they feel NADOs are under-funded their answer is invariably 'yes'.
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06 Feb 2018 12:44

Getting it back on track:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42957650

Usual excuses rolled out.
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06 Feb 2018 12:59

King Boonen wrote:Getting it back on track:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42957650

Usual excuses rolled out.


Of course the excuse does sound all too familiar and predictable, but i have to say of almost all anabolic steroids Trenbolone is one of the very last i would expect to hear about being used by a weight limited boxer..
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07 Feb 2018 15:17

Nigel Levine suspended for clenbuterol positive. Poll on where he went on holiday?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/42972647
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08 Feb 2018 13:57

The reason for hunting after and catching amateur athletes is because it makes the authorities look like they are doing their job well when we all know they don't like catching the big fish for multiple reasons. Bad publicity for the sport in question for starters. All the legalities, costs that come with a big fish for seconds.
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