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Re: Brits don't dope?

17 Sep 2018 09:49

Not only guilty of doping, but guilty of not suffering too. Must be some very special asthma medication cycling's using!
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Re: Brits don't dope?

17 Sep 2018 10:45

samhocking wrote:Not only guilty of doping, but guilty of not suffering too. Must be some very special asthma medication cycling's using!


Well especially whilst Sky constantly using the 'hardest sporting event on the planet' narrative. That's freaking annoying.
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17 Sep 2018 11:40

Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.
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17 Sep 2018 12:19

lartiste wrote:Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.

You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African
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Re: Brits don't dope?

17 Sep 2018 12:42

rick james wrote:
[url=<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2313236#p2313236</span>]lartiste[/url] wrote:Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.

You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African


who does he ride for in the olympics?
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Re: Brits don't dope?

17 Sep 2018 13:16

ngent41 wrote:
rick james wrote:
[url=<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2313236#p2313236</span>]lartiste[/url] wrote:Interesting, that the rise of anglo-saxons in GT is that connected with alleged use of motors in cycling. According to newest french book Varjas sold first small motor in late 1998. The information about motor doping spreaded about 2010.

First is coincidently connected with rise of Postal, second with Sky.

You know the guy that’s won the most for these Anglo Saxons that are on the rise is African


who does he ride for in the olympics?



yes the mighty Great Britain and Northern Ireland , but he is African, he was born in Africa....class him Anglo Saxon all you want but he isn't
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17 Sep 2018 13:17

unless you want to tell is Anglo saxon is code word for anyone that's from an English speaking country
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17 Sep 2018 13:28

rick james wrote:For Queen and country


Be nice if the 3 'Brits' paid taxes to queen and country.

Do Andorrans and Monegasques dope?
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17 Sep 2018 14:06

samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.
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17 Sep 2018 14:17

Mayo from Mayo wrote:
rick james wrote:For Queen and country


Be nice if the 3 'Brits' paid taxes to queen and country.

Do Andorrans and Monegasques dope?



their tax business has nothing to do with you
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17 Sep 2018 14:18

Benotti69 wrote:
samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.



again you have no right to know every single bit of detail about the personal life of a pro cyclist
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17 Sep 2018 14:24

rick james wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.



again you have no right to know every single bit of detail about the personal life of a pro cyclist


If said cyclist would like his wins to be viewed as believable said cyclist should prove a history of an illness for which he claims to need medicine, which is also a PED, for.

If not well said cyclist (nor his fans) cannot whinge about being viewed like nearly all his predecessors who have won GTs as a dirty doper.

:)

PS Callum Skinner had no problem producing his documentary evidence of asthma from childhood. A UK cyclist set the bar, pity others cant follow.......but there is a reason for not being able to produce the documents.....it is called doping. But you know this and continue to try and obfuscate.
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17 Sep 2018 14:26

Brits winning 9 of the last 19 GTs since 2012 is not having a great affect on UK cycling........


https://twitter.com/teamjltcondor/status/1041639765223854080
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17 Sep 2018 14:47

the sky is the limit
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17 Sep 2018 15:01

Benotti69 wrote:
samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.


He confirmed asthma since childhood with UCI.
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17 Sep 2018 15:14

Pennino wrote:
Huapango wrote:
samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


My biggest takeaway from the victories of Wiggin, Froome, Thomas and now Yates is how effortlessly they won their grand tours. Froome has done a good job of acting the last few years, but they all seemed to have won without doing much suffering. Please don't give me bs about the great teams they were on, if you're climbing an HC mountain and you're on a bad day you will suffer.


True that. It's highly annoying seeing them winning HC-stages, dropping the rest of the field like stones, without giving the impression of being devastated.

Tell me of these HC wins of Wiggins.
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17 Sep 2018 15:22

samhocking wrote:
Benotti69 wrote:
samhocking wrote:I would need more evidence than that to consider him doping with Terb, sorry.


A 4 month ban for abanned substance.

No documentary proof of childhood asthma and of course you believe him.

:lol:

One born every minute.


He confirmed asthma since childhood with UCI.


He didn't produce evidence.
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17 Sep 2018 16:04

Yates TUE was already granted for asthma by UCI from what i've read about his case, it's just that the doctor failed to include terbutaline. ie he had a TUE for Salbutomol, but declared he had taken Terbutaline on his Paris Nice control form.
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17 Sep 2018 16:45

samhocking wrote:Yates TUE was already granted for asthma by UCI from what i've read about his case, it's just that the doctor failed to include terbutaline. ie he had a TUE for Salbutomol, but declared he had taken Terbutaline on his Paris Nice control form.


You are 100% correct - The doctor forgot to apply for a TUE while Yates listed the substance on his document control form.
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17 Sep 2018 17:16

samhocking wrote:Yates TUE was already granted for asthma by UCI from what i've read about his case, it's just that the doctor failed to include terbutaline. ie he had a TUE for Salbutomol, but declared he had taken Terbutaline on his Paris Nice control form.


And just to prove to everyone he is on the up ( an English expression i believe), he produced historical documents proving he is a long time asthmatic.

Cycling has always been a sport where the culture to dope is the norm. Show me where and how that has changed that it is now possible for a clean rider to win a 3 week long endurance race over riders who are doping to beat the band!
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