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19 Jan 2017 21:29

yaco wrote:An Australian NRL player Ryan Mullens positive to steroids - Surprised there haven't been more cases.

Wow, extremely unlucky. If he was from QLD I don't doubt that it would have been swept straight under the carpet though. *Cough* Dave Taylor *Cough*.
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12 Feb 2017 13:00

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/02/12/sione-lauaki-retired-new-zealand-forward-dies-aged-35/

Kidneys and heart. The Polynesian tribes seem to have a problem with creatine and other assorted substances. On a slightly different note. Did anyone see Brian O'Driscoll commentating on ITV before Italy v Ireland? The lantern jaw is scary.
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13 Feb 2017 22:08

buckle wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/02/12/sione-lauaki-retired-new-zealand-forward-dies-aged-35/

Kidneys and heart. The Polynesian tribes seem to have a problem with creatine and other assorted substances. On a slightly different note. Did anyone see Brian O'Driscoll commentating on ITV before Italy v Ireland? The lantern jaw is scary.


And again. None of you know what a lantern jaw is. And BOD has the same jawline as a teenager.

He may or may not have been on dope. He was certainly a cheat on the field as a player just like his 14 friends. Lovely fun loving happy go lucky shamrock munchers that they are.
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Re: Drugs in rugby

19 Feb 2017 06:36

Interesting article by Richard Moore in today's Scotsman.
Doesn't mention cycling among the sports, and seems to favour the "freak" theory rather than the "drug" theory, but at least he puts the possibility out there:

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/richard-moore-some-sports-are-becoming-preserve-of-freaks-1-4370288
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Re: Drugs in rugby

19 Feb 2017 08:26

GreasyChain wrote:
buckle wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/02/12/sione-lauaki-retired-new-zealand-forward-dies-aged-35/

Kidneys and heart. The Polynesian tribes seem to have a problem with creatine and other assorted substances. On a slightly different note. Did anyone see Brian O'Driscoll commentating on ITV before Italy v Ireland? The lantern jaw is scary.


And again. None of you know what a lantern jaw is. And BOD has the same jawline as a teenager.

He may or may not have been on dope. He was certainly a cheat on the field as a player just like his 14 friends. Lovely fun loving happy go lucky shamrock munchers that they are.

No Lantern Jaw there. Never one of the giant types, in fact himself and Darcy on the smaller side of centre partnerships.
If you want to look for HGH/Lantern Jaw just google welsh rugby and have a look at the backs(and forwards).
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Re: Drugs in rugby

19 Feb 2017 08:43

noddy69 wrote:
GreasyChain wrote:
buckle wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/02/12/sione-lauaki-retired-new-zealand-forward-dies-aged-35/

Kidneys and heart. The Polynesian tribes seem to have a problem with creatine and other assorted substances. On a slightly different note. Did anyone see Brian O'Driscoll commentating on ITV before Italy v Ireland? The lantern jaw is scary.


And again. None of you know what a lantern jaw is. And BOD has the same jawline as a teenager.

He may or may not have been on dope. He was certainly a cheat on the field as a player just like his 14 friends. Lovely fun loving happy go lucky shamrock munchers that they are.

No Lantern Jaw there. Never one of the giant types, in fact himself and Darcy on the smaller side of centre partnerships.
If you want to look for HGH/Lantern Jaw just google welsh rugby and have a look at the backs(and forwards).



The piece mentions by way of irony Gregor Townshend. His contemporary in the Scottish team was the no less diminutive Craig Chalmers. The latter's son was busted for doping in the last five years. Smaller players are doping just to survive against the heavy traffic. A hopeless enterprise I know. I suspect BOD got on a program to survive in the modern era. It must be sad for him to see players of zero talent walking into International rugby because of their build.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/scotland/10307277/Chalmers-son-Sam-banned-from-rugby-for-two-years-for-doping-offences.html
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02 Mar 2017 00:34

Rugby: The drug cocktail that has rugby worried

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11809997

Recent remarks from Christian Bagate, a former head of the French Rugby Federation medical commission, of "the Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday corticosteroid-cocaine cocktail" have gained headlines in France.
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09 Mar 2017 15:45

JackRabbitSlims wrote:Rugby: The drug cocktail that has rugby worried

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11809997

Recent remarks from Christian Bagate, a former head of the French Rugby Federation medical commission, of "the Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday corticosteroid-cocaine cocktail" have gained headlines in France.


we call it potBelge TM
"Hitler … didn't even sink to using chemical weapons."
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03 Apr 2017 18:21

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Re: Drugs in rugby

06 Apr 2017 20:25

Zypherov wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/10823555/dan-carter-and-racing-92-team-mates-cleared-after-doping-allegations

Dan Carter and Racing 92 team-mates cleared after doping allegations

Nothing to see here...they took it 7 days before the final in an authorised manner ......and Rugby doesn't have a problem :)

Joking aside these guys are running into a disaster. The players go from big to ludicrously big and thats just the backs. Its now a freak show where we have 18 stone full backs running 11 second 100mtrs and we(society) don't blink we just applaud. Being a physical sport doping can impact more than money and fame, it can impact on people and injuries - but no one will make the hard decisions or even look at the problem. Paul Kimmage triedand didn't get anywhere. Not surprising mind you as I dont know of any sport that has done anything but play lip service to tackling doping(see what I did there :)).
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10 Apr 2017 12:02

I watched my first Aviva Premiership game in forever.

I was quite literally stunned by the size and bulk. Its not the same game anymore, a far cry from what I used to play.
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14 Apr 2017 20:52

Catwhoorg wrote:I watched my first Aviva Premiership game in forever.

I was quite literally stunned by the size and bulk. Its not the same game anymore, a far cry from what I used to play.

Ridiculous isn't it! Even compared to Rugby League the players are monstrous now.

Example - Sam Burgess is a 2nd rower/lock when he plays for the South Sydney Rabbitohs, has also played Prop Forward for them and England. When he went to the Rugby World Cup, he was a f$&king outside centre!!!

Sonny Bill Williams, same thing. I thought League was bad, but when you look at today's Union players, things seem pretty grim.
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