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Quintana??

03 Jun 2014 20:44

So I notice there is no Quintana thread here. It seems everyone that has an impressive performance automatically gets a thread. He certainly won the giro in impressive fashion despite being horribly sick the whole time.

Is Quintana considered a clean rider?
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03 Jun 2014 20:48

offbyone wrote:So I notice there is no Quintana thread here. It seems everyone that has an impressive performance automatically gets a thread. He certainly won the giro in impressive fashion despite being horribly sick the whole time.

Is Quintana considered a clean rider?


He has more of a believable back story than most but I assume he is still doping. If not EPO then something else.
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03 Jun 2014 21:02

This is gonna be such a thread were some people are gonna act surprised cause it doesn't have many posts and where clinic regulars answer that this is because there's pretty much no discussion and anyone's like 'yeah, he dopes, onto the next one'. Though maybe this could go into the distance cause he's Colombian and cause Ryo Hazuki never believes anyone is doping

He still deserves a thread though
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03 Jun 2014 21:05

Don't like him. :mad:

But not a doper fo'sho. Those are extinct.
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03 Jun 2014 21:06

CycloAndy wrote:He has more of a believable back story than most but I assume he is still doping. If not EPO then something else.


What do you mean by back story?
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03 Jun 2014 21:07

Yes he is a doper. As discussed in the vomistar thread and the Colombia thread.
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03 Jun 2014 21:07

Red Rick wrote:He still deserves a thread though.


No, he does not. Not at this stage. You guys take conjecture to ridiculous heights here in the Clinic, but I'm not going to let it happen this time.

Let there be some type of controversy, or dare I even say a hint of proof before going bananas throwing rocks at a rider whose only guilt is winning a grand tour. There has to be more to it than that.

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03 Jun 2014 22:02

I also think he is a doper. I am neither a fan nor a hater of the guy right now, altough after the Stelvio stage that changed a little. To me he feats in the same type of dopers as Nibali, Valverde and Contador.


Guys i know dope and wouldn't mind getting caught, but don't really bother me being at the top of the sport because they have always shown be talented riders.
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03 Jun 2014 22:28

offbyone wrote:So I notice there is no Quintana thread here. It seems everyone that has an impressive performance automatically gets a thread. He certainly won the giro in impressive fashion despite being horribly sick the whole time.

Is Quintana considered a clean rider?


Antione Vayer and Portoleau seem to think he is clean. Vayer went to Twitter to announce it.

http://t.co/kVIJeiIUPe
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03 Jun 2014 22:36

hiero2 wrote:Antione Vayer and Portoleau seem to think he is clean. Vayer went to Twitter to announce it.

http://t.co/kVIJeiIUPe


No .
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03 Jun 2014 23:35

Hmm Berzin had closed the thread because there was no proof that quintana doped. Now the thread is open and his message is gone. Mysterious.
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04 Jun 2014 00:27

Too me it looks unlikely. He is extremely light. Hesjesdal and Rolland were able to follow him for 20 km on stage 16. Only when the gradient got steeper he moved ahead slightly. His talent was evident since the beginning.
On the other hand, he also probably does what Unzue asks him to do who himself is a relic of the hardcore doping. He is in the Movistar team with Valverde a know unrepentant doper.
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04 Jun 2014 00:44

Quintana has the best poker face I have ever seen. He even makes Indurain look animated. He hardly ever has his mouth open. Good sinuses. He is young, talented and versatile. I just don't know.
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04 Jun 2014 01:05

He could be doping. I don't know.

But he sures fits the mold of very talented rider. Very. And it has been so consistent from the beginning. Better than other riders.

Him and Uran I am willing to defend more than other Colombians at this moment. It could change tomorrow.

Who takes Colombian riders to Europe at such a young age to dope them to the gills if you can do that with young European talent unless you are a very talented rider?
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04 Jun 2014 07:49

offbyone wrote:Hmm Berzin had closed the thread because there was no proof that quintana doped.


will other clinic threads close where there is no proof?

as to quintana i have no idea just like froome.............again I have my suspicions

without doubt quintana is prepared to do anything necesary..........ignore red flags............draft behind team cars........disappear for ages training etc

it surprises me he is so popular.........is his character lost in translation?

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04 Jun 2014 10:54

Don't really like the guy,but since cycling is "clean"now he must be clean too +colombians don't dope :)
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04 Jun 2014 11:11

I was shocked that there was no thread on Quintana. But I think there are major doubts already with riders from Columbia. I agree with that. Strange they all go to Columbia to train, most US pros for instance live in Europe during the season, but Quintana and Uran etc are in Columbia during the season and seem to fly back for races??

Am sure there is very little dope check in Columbia and even where done easy for the cyclists to know well in advance.

When he was "sick" in the first week of the Giro, I was thinking, got a bad BB. And when he suddenly recovered and exploded in the 2nd week, I said fixed his BB issues.

I am sceptically of a 24 year old already a GT winner?? You must be super talented and I don't get that with Quintana. By that way dunno why but he looks 30 to me....
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04 Jun 2014 11:24

offbyone wrote:So I notice there is no Quintana thread here.


I'm pretty sure there hasn't been one started because he is The Hitch's favourite rider :D
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04 Jun 2014 11:34

He looks like a natural talent to me
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04 Jun 2014 11:44

I'm going with exceptionally talented, but doping.
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