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17 Sep 2015 19:54

Handy Bendy Ghandi wrote:
vedrafjord wrote:"White orcs on steroids" - Michael Laws

Yeah.........or "White orcs on HGH" may be more appropriate...........particularly for one backrow player with an Italian sounding surname............


The wasps website used to have a function where you saw an image of each current players year by year that he had been playing for them...my 'moment' with LOL camie when watching (in 2009) an old vid of the 1997 lions tour and recognising most of the team but not some skinny rake in the back row...
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Re: Re:

18 Sep 2015 08:38

Jacques (7 ch) wrote:
Handy Bendy Ghandi wrote:
vedrafjord wrote:"White orcs on steroids" - Michael Laws

Yeah.........or "White orcs on HGH" may be more appropriate...........particularly for one backrow player with an Italian sounding surname............


The wasps website used to have a function where you saw an image of each current players year by year that he had been playing for them...my 'moment' with LOL camie when watching (in 2009) an old vid of the 1997 lions tour and recognising most of the team but not some skinny rake in the back row...

Yeah - it's probably the most obvious example, but the problem is endemic right across the piece.

Back in the early 90s it was a standing joke amongst the Welsh players that one of them was so clearly on the 'roids because he couldn't walk past a mirror or window without looking at himself and flexing :)
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Re: Marginal Gains

06 Oct 2015 15:09

Not entirely surprising since Lotto Jumbo used
them in the Tour this year, but the UCI Equipment
Commission specifically okayed the use of 'no-pins'
clothing in relation to UCI rule 1.3.033.

The officials at the UCI World Masters Track Cycling
Championships currently on in Manchester sought
and received a ruling on the use of Nopinz skinsuits
which, according to some sources, can be worth 3 to
5 watts, a marginal but still significant gain on the track
where races are won by fractions of a second.
http://www.nopinz.com
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Re: Marginal Gains

06 Oct 2015 17:08

oldcrank wrote:Not entirely surprising since Lotto Jumbo used
them in the Tour this year, but the UCI Equipment
Commission specifically okayed the use of 'no-pins'
clothing in relation to UCI rule 1.3.033.

The officials at the UCI World Masters Track Cycling
Championships currently on in Manchester sought
and received a ruling on the use of Nopinz skinsuits
which, according to some sources, can be worth 3 to
5 watts, a marginal but still significant gain on the track
where races are won by fractions of a second.
http://www.nopinz.com


I was just poking around the site and found this:

A breathing enhancer...

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I don't care what kind of performance benefit comes with it. I have no interest in putting that in my... mouth? Nostril? I don't even know.

EDIT: Salazar did it first, now everyone's doing it.

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Re: Marginal Gains

06 Oct 2015 20:12

More Strides than Rides wrote:
oldcrank wrote:Not entirely surprising since Lotto Jumbo used
them in the Tour this year, but the UCI Equipment
Commission specifically okayed the use of 'no-pins'
clothing in relation to UCI rule 1.3.033.

The officials at the UCI World Masters Track Cycling
Championships currently on in Manchester sought
and received a ruling on the use of Nopinz skinsuits
which, according to some sources, can be worth 3 to
5 watts, a marginal but still significant gain on the track
where races are won by fractions of a second.
http://www.nopinz.com


I was just poking around the site and found this:

A breathing enhancer...

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Yes, my friend, that is the 'Turbine' used
by our Froomey in his 2015 Tour victory.
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Re: Re:

08 Oct 2015 14:04

Jacques (7 ch) wrote:
Handy Bendy Ghandi wrote:
vedrafjord wrote:"White orcs on steroids" - Michael Laws

Yeah.........or "White orcs on HGH" may be more appropriate...........particularly for one backrow player with an Italian sounding surname............


The wasps website used to have a function where you saw an image of each current players year by year that he had been playing for them...my 'moment' with LOL camie when watching (in 2009) an old vid of the 1997 lions tour and recognising most of the team but not some skinny rake in the back row...

Of course, maybe it would have helped if the one dimensional, lumbering gym monkeys had asked for LOL's advice on performance enhancement and marginal gains...............then they might still be in their home Wolrd Cup..... :D :D
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Re: Re:

08 Oct 2015 20:29

Handy Bendy Ghandi wrote:
Jacques (7 ch) wrote:
Handy Bendy Ghandi wrote:
vedrafjord wrote:"White orcs on steroids" - Michael Laws

Yeah.........or "White orcs on HGH" may be more appropriate...........particularly for one backrow player with an Italian sounding surname............


The wasps website used to have a function where you saw an image of each current players year by year that he had been playing for them...my 'moment' with LOL camie when watching (in 2009) an old vid of the 1997 lions tour and recognising most of the team but not some skinny rake in the back row...

Of course, maybe it would have helped if the one dimensional, lumbering gym monkeys had asked for LOL's advice on performance enhancement and marginal gains...............then they might still be in their home Wolrd Cup..... :D :D


Indeed, ha ha. I always think of Haskell as son of LOL - in more ways than one.
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Re: Marginal Gains

23 Oct 2015 04:25

Team SKY may be close to announcing an exciting
partnership with AEROcaps for 2016 and beyond.

Consumers will have access to the same products
Froomey and Super-G have at their disposal. :)
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Re: Marginal Gains

23 Oct 2015 04:36

oldcrank wrote:Team SKY may be close to announcing an exciting
partnership with AEROcaps for 2016 and beyond.

Consumers will have access to the same products
Froomey and Super-G have at their disposal. :)


Horse steroids FTW!!
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29 Oct 2015 16:22

Ufe ‏@oufeh 8h8 hours ago

Watched TdF'06 prologue on YouTube yesterday. Was psyched to hear 'young' Bradley W says he'd warm down after. Thought it was Sky invention


so how come Wiggo didn't win the 2006 tour then? I guess Kerrison is a liar too, surprise surprise.
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29 Oct 2015 17:57

the sceptic wrote:
Ufe ‏@oufeh 8h8 hours ago

Watched TdF'06 prologue on YouTube yesterday. Was psyched to hear 'young' Bradley W says he'd warm down after. Thought it was Sky invention


so how come Wiggo didn't win the 2006 tour then? I guess Kerrison is a liar too, surprise surprise.


Dear Watson, when we've exhausted all the possibilities, the last one, however improbable... is MARGINAL PILLOWS!
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29 Oct 2015 18:42

I thought of this thread when this made the blogosphere/twittersphere:

Cigarette smoking: an underused tool in high-performance endurance training

Catches a lot of how I feel about branding marginal gains and oversciencing.
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29 Oct 2015 19:40

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Wiggo knows the benefits of smoking.

Marginal Gains....
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29 Oct 2015 19:42

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Peter Kennaugh is in on the Marginal Gains too....
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29 Oct 2015 19:48

Of course, who could forget about Mario?

Marginal Gains

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25 Dec 2015 18:25

Sky can go back on Nutella, cos u can now get your own personalised tasty hazlenut chocolate spread

this one is Palin version

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"Hitler … didn't even sink to using chemical weapons."
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bulk

25 Dec 2015 20:27

.............i'm bulking up over the festive period.............once back on my bike i could

shed the pounds and be faster than ever..........gonna market my ideas to team sky

...................................................wait?

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Re: Marginal Gains

29 Dec 2015 06:41

oldcrank wrote:Team SKY may be close to announcing an exciting
partnership with AEROcaps for 2016 and beyond.

Consumers will have access to the same products
Froomey and Super-G have at their disposal. :)

Sweet! Does it include a consultation with Dr Leinders?
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Re: Marginal Gains

06 Apr 2017 20:55

Julich from 2006, marginal gains :razz:

Bobby Julich's Time-Trial Routine

[photo caption] CSC's Bobby Julich finished 29th of 176 in Saturday's Tour de France Prologue. Julich, who is not a time-trialing specialist, has stated that his Tour preparation has been focused on climbing. (photo courtesy ESPN.com)

Bobby Julich's time-trial routine, in his own words:

Pre-Race
• I only eat pasta with olive oil with parmesan cheese -- no ketchup, no meats, no veggies -- and I finish eating exactly 3 hours before the event.
• Try to relax as much as possible.
• Go down to the route about 90 minutes before the race starts.
• Try to follow one of my teammates in the follow car to see what the turns look like at real speed.
• Get back to the bus, go inside and try to relax; drink water and talk to teammates about the turns and wind in the trial.
Start on turbo turner, a device we hook up our bikes to about an hour before the stage; I go 20 minutes, very easy, then move to five-minute progression intervals to get muscles and heart rate and sweat going.
• 10 minutes before race, I go back into the bus, dry off and put on my racing gear.
• I'm ready to roll about 4-6 minutes before the start.
• Normally, I listen to music, anything with a real high tempo. Rap music does it for me. Today, I wasn't in the mood, but I'm sure I'll have my iPod on later, like before the 20th stage of the Tour!

Post-Stage
• I try to warm down and get to the bus and get on the stationary bike to warm down before meeting with the press. It's a time to reflect on my effort and share knowledge with my teammates that haven't yet gone in the time tria
l.
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