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14 Feb 2018 10:24

Dear SDB
No wrong-doing
=\=
the high moral ground
you once pouted.
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14 Feb 2018 11:45

You can't falsely accuse someone of wrong doing.

Are we really going to go down the Trumpian explanation route? Fake urine samples! :D
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14 Feb 2018 12:10

Wiggo's Package wrote:
53*11 wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:Brailsfraud interviewed just now on, ahem, Sky Sports News:

"What we're talking about is how many times he used his puffer. You're allowed to use it 16 times in 24 hours. The question is did he use it more. The rules aren't about the levels in the urine as has been widely reported. The rules are about how many times you use the puffer. You can't falsely accuse someone of wrong doing. That's the worst case scenario if someone has done nothing wrong. That's the whole basis of our society"


lolol, so brailsfraud doe snot consider the salbutamol urine levels (at twice the limit) to be a problem, thats an in interesting defence. if he was right of course CF could rock up to the uci lab, do his test, take 16 puffs on his iunhaler and then test at 2000ng; except they cant prove this because it is not possible. the '' The question is did he use it more.'' line is interesting , are they going to claim that CF himself decided to use ~100 puffs to reach 2000ng? in any case he still gets a ban as he exceeded the urine concentration allowed, twice over.


It's a remarkable statement in many ways. Just playing to the fanboys on the in-house TV channel. But remarkable all the same

The bit where he says the rules aren't about the levels in the urine is an interesting spin. Total BS of course. Takes some front to put that idea out there though

The suggestion that Froome being found guilty would be an affront to society really takes the BS biscuit. Is he taking a high moral line? Sorry Dave, that ship sailed a while ago, mate!


i cant figure out if sdb is really so delusional that he believes his own BS or that it is a cheer leading effort to appeal to the casual sports fan, he certainly doesnt seem to give a toss about their ever dwindling credibility coming out with BS like that though
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14 Feb 2018 14:39

Dave B is hilarious! :lol: So all we need to do is to ask Froome how many puffs he had, and everything is gonna be ok :eek: Either this is a serious PR bullshit, or Dave seriously lost it.
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14 Feb 2018 15:23

It's can sometimes be rather hard to know what he is saying. He is a born liar after all.
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14 Feb 2018 19:01

veganrob wrote:It's can sometimes be rather hard to know what he is saying. He is a born liar after all.


If you watch him on TV he "looks" convincing but if you analyse what he actually says it turns to dust
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15 Feb 2018 09:56

Just listened to him talking about Froome and Lappartient. Could any man be any more smug, arrogant and condesending. Power, fame and money corrupts and DB obviously believes that he is infallible. Maybe it's because the heat has been turned away from him slightly and onto Froome himself. Every time I see the title of this thread popping up I have to smile. Cycling genius? You're having a laugh.
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15 Feb 2018 11:02

ontheroad wrote:Just listened to him talking about Froome and Lappartient. Could any man be any more smug, arrogant and condesending. Power, fame and money corrupts and DB obviously believes that he is infallible. Maybe it's because the heat has been turned away from him slightly and onto Froome himself. Every time I see the title of this thread popping up I have to smile. Cycling genius? You're having a laugh.


Oh i don't know....i think he probably is deserving of the title 'cycling genius'

He led the most successful Olympic cycling programme in the history of Olympic cycling. 'His' team have won 5 of the last 6 TDF's. Admittedly, money has played a part in this, but convincing funders to invest big sums in your project in itself requires a great deal of skill in persuasion. Historically, with such lofty goals many people have failed regardless of how much money they've had to throw at a project. Other teams have had not too dissimilar budgets and therefore access to the same means and methods at their potential disposal.

No Genius is without their faults, and our Dave certainly isn't.

The question for our cycling genius, is wether history will judge him as 'good' genius or 'evil' genius'
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15 Feb 2018 13:06

If the curtain is ever drawn back on DB, things may look a little different
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15 Feb 2018 13:07

veganrob wrote:It's can sometimes be rather hard to know what he is saying. He is a born liar after all.


Would you buy a used car from Dave Brailsford?
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Re: Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

15 Feb 2018 14:00

Dave Brailsford =

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15 Feb 2018 16:24

You got it wrong there is no jimney cricket for SDB
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15 Feb 2018 17:04

thehog wrote:
veganrob wrote:It's can sometimes be rather hard to know what he is saying. He is a born liar after all.


Would you buy a used car from Dave Brailsford?

I wouldn't buy a used bike from Brailsfraud unless it was a team issue with the thingwy that lets you spin out and accelerate at the same time.
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16 Feb 2018 13:22

Sir Dave has got his mojo back. Has come out totally bullish in the last few days, it's like the last 18 months just didn't happen.
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16 Feb 2018 13:48

ontheroad wrote:Sir Dave has got his mojo back. Has come out totally bullish in the last few days, it's like the last 18 months just didn't happen.


the trump strategy, say it didnt happen 3 times and 90% people believe your #BS!
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16 Feb 2018 15:27

zalacain wrote:
thehog wrote:
veganrob wrote:It's can sometimes be rather hard to know what he is saying. He is a born liar after all.


Would you buy a used car from Dave Brailsford?

I wouldn't buy a used bike from Brailsfraud unless it was a team issue with the thingwy that lets you spin out and accelerate at the same time.

Nice
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23 Feb 2018 14:08

What's the spin on this?

Up to this point Brailsford has been paid as consultant to parent company not an employee of Team Sky
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5424283/Sir-Dave-Brailsford-closes-consultancy-business.html
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23 Feb 2018 14:33

TourOfSardinia wrote:What's the spin on this?

Up to this point Brailsford has been paid as consultant to parent company not an employee of Team Sky
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5424283/Sir-Dave-Brailsford-closes-consultancy-business.html


Looks like a tax dodge

Presumably Brailsfraud's company was based off-shore so he could dodge the inconvenient business of paying income tax

Another example of Braislfraud and Team Sky setting an exemplary ethical example :rolleyes:

Not clear why the arrangement has now changed and he's had to become a humble employee. Maybe the tax dodge was challenged by HMRC

Whatever we should pity the poor Knight of the Realm. Time for another Kickstarter so Sir Dave doesn't end up out of pocket...?
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23 Feb 2018 15:45

Wiggo's Package wrote:
Presumably Brailsfraud's company was based off-shore so he could dodge the inconvenient business of paying income tax

Another example of Braislfraud and Team Sky setting an exemplary ethical example :rolleyes:

Not clear why the arrangement has now changed and he's had to become a humble employee. Maybe the tax dodge was challenged by HMRC

Have you had a look where the company is based or are you just guessing?

(Hint: An industrial estate in Cardiff isn't 'off-shore')

It was co-owned by his wife/partner. My guess is they're splitting up.
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23 Feb 2018 16:12

Parker wrote:
Wiggo's Package wrote:
Presumably Brailsfraud's company was based off-shore so he could dodge the inconvenient business of paying income tax

Another example of Braislfraud and Team Sky setting an exemplary ethical example :rolleyes:

Not clear why the arrangement has now changed and he's had to become a humble employee. Maybe the tax dodge was challenged by HMRC

Have you had a look where the company is based or are you just guessing?

(Hint: An industrial estate in Cardiff isn't 'off-shore')

It was co-owned by his wife/partner. My guess is they're splitting up.


no he didnt, he just "presumed"

anyway, after the latest "twisty" ;) months we can notice Sky still keeps him and now he is an official Sky employee.
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